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From: Stewart on 6 Feb 2010 11:41 "Dave D" <dtdodson(a)acsalaska.net> wrote in message news:4b6d1a83$1(a)news.acsalaska.net... > > "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message > news:Xns9D16141D6B7B6tegger(a)208.90.168.18... >> jr92 <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote in >> news:a47b30e1-88d4-48d0-b605-2ca578017e50(a)m31g2000yqd.googlegroups.com: >>> > ///snipped/// >>> That does not mean that Toyota does not have problems with >>> sticking >>> accelerators. >> >> >> >> What about Ford? They account for 28% of SUA incidents. How come >> nobody's >> up in arms about that? > > I would redirect your attention to the overblown Explorer fiasco. > Seems like there were quite a few up in arms about that. Could it > possibly be that of the 28% of SUA incidents you attribute to Ford > that only a miniscule part were mechanical failures? Just asking. > What I have noticed is this - there is a certain fraction of the > population (any population) that is overjoyed to see one of the "Big > Dogs" get whipped. I would bet that there was a similar reaction to > Ford's problems, to GM's misfortunes, and if Ferrari or Rolls-Royce > suffered a similar disaster, there would be a collection of > "experts" that would be delighted and would go out of their way to > denigrate the marque.....I guess its just human nature to rejoice > when the high and mighty are fallen. > DaveD > Dare we say Class Action Lawsuit? Everyone affected will get $2500 off their next new Toyota purchase, and the lawyer firm will get millions.....
From: Tegger on 6 Feb 2010 13:46 "Stewart" <gortamus(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:hkk62t$ag0$1(a)news.eternal- september.org: >> > > Dare we say Class Action Lawsuit? Everyone affected will get $2500 > off their next new Toyota purchase, More likely you'll just get a coupon for $10 off your next oil change. > and the lawyer firm will get millions..... > That's a certainty. That's what mass tort is for. -- Tegger
From: Gordon McGrew on 6 Feb 2010 23:08 On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:06:53 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >Get real, there have been 19 people killed, and an untold number of people >injured driving runaway Toyotas, in the US alone. > >If I were driving a Toyota today, I would drive with my left foot poised >over the brake pedal ;) > Hey Mike. You might want to watch this video on runaway Ford Exploeres. This seems to be a problem in UK and Australia. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eGTqKn_ihc Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIuFXy2Zi2g&feature=related I like the part where they try to blame it on floor mats. > > > >"Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message >news:Xns9D14C85F6C360tegger(a)208.90.168.18... >> "tww1491" <twaugh5(a)cox.net> wrote in >> news:Fooan.26826$fu3.6796(a)newsfe12.iad: >> >>> >>> >>> "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >>> news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >> >>>> >>>> if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they >>>> need to show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like >>>> detroit does, not be politically naive and simply rely on selling >>>> superior product. >>>> >>> >>> In the local paper a couple days ago, a 79 year old women crashed into >>> a veterinarian's office claiming that the gas pedal on her new Toyota >>> stuck. The dealer found nothing wrong with the car. With that story in >>> the paper were reports of drivers complaining to the local Toyota >>> dealer that they received speeding tickets because of "stuck" pedals. >>> And so it has begun. And yet much more to come. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Keep in mind that there have been exactly twelve (12) confirmed incidents >> of actual stuck gas pedals on Toyotas since October. Worldwide. Over 2.3 >> million vehicles. >> >> That's 0.00052%, in case anybody's counting. >> >> >> -- >> Tegger >> >
From: jr92 on 7 Feb 2010 02:37 On Feb 5, 1:17 am, Tegger <inva...(a)invalid.inv> wrote: > jr92 <coachros...(a)hotmail.com> wrote innews:28a1db53-7537-473d-8873-d2afacbd189a(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com: > > > On Feb 3, 10:17 am, jim beam <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrec. > >> .. > > >> "US chides Toyota over recall" > > >> this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > > You mean, like the Japanese version of protectionism that, in 2008, > > exported over 2 million vechicles to the US, while at the same time, > > only allowing 12 thousand American nameplates to be imported > > there?????? > > So what? Maybe the Japs simply don't like our cars. Ever thought of that? > If WE won't buy them, why would THEY? > If that is the case, why not let the free market decide??????????????? If you are right, the Japanese would NOT buy US products. But, of course, they MIGHT buy US if they HAD THE CHANCE TO DO SO IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The GOVERNMENT restricts the number of US imports sold in Japan. If there were "TRUE FREE TRADE", and the Japanese still didn't buy from the USA, you might have a point. But, being they are not allowed to so IN THE FIRST PLACE, you simply make a moot point/ Why not give the Japanese the CHOICE TO REJECT US NAMEPLATES????????????????? Maybe because the Japanese government fears the public might not do so??????? > There's a reason Toyota has the market share they do, in spite of all the > hatred directed against them from certain quarters. > > -- > Tegger
From: jim beam on 7 Feb 2010 09:16
On 02/06/2010 11:37 PM, jr92 wrote: > On Feb 5, 1:17�am, Tegger<inva...(a)invalid.inv> wrote: >> jr92<coachros...(a)hotmail.com> wrote innews:28a1db53-7537-473d-8873-d2afacbd189a(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com: >> >>> On Feb 3, 10:17�am, jim beam<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrec. >>>> .. >> >>>> "US chides Toyota over recall" >> >>>> this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. >> >>> You mean, like the Japanese version of protectionism that, in 2008, >>> exported over 2 million vechicles to the US, while at the same time, >>> only allowing 12 thousand American nameplates to be imported >>> there?????? >> >> So what? Maybe the Japs simply don't like our cars. Ever thought of that? >> If WE won't buy them, why would THEY? >> > > If that is the case, why not let the free market decide??????????????? > > If you are right, the Japanese would NOT buy US products. > > But, of course, they MIGHT buy US if they HAD THE CHANCE TO DO SO IN > THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > The GOVERNMENT restricts the number of US imports sold in Japan. > > If there were "TRUE FREE TRADE", and the Japanese still didn't buy > from the USA, you might have a point. > > But, being they are not allowed to so IN THE FIRST PLACE, you simply > make a moot point/ > > > Why not give the Japanese the CHOICE TO REJECT US > NAMEPLATES????????????????? > > > Maybe because the Japanese government fears the public might not do > so??????? that doesn't explain why japanese vehicles sell so well in all the other markets where u.s. manufacturers are free to compete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry#By_Manufacturer note that 1. vw outsells gm globally for cars. 2. gm's non-domestic product line includes opel, a range of cheap, small, efficient vehicles with global appeal that sell well in other markets [but they don't make them here]. they have a real hard time selling their domestic product line overseas and they'd be sunk if they were so trying. fact is, the japanese make better, more reliable vehicles that sell well in every market in the world. u.s. domestic vehicles have very limited appeal outside domestic markets so this "protectionist" argument doesn't wash.. > > > > > > >> There's a reason Toyota has the market share they do, in spite of all the >> hatred directed against them from certain quarters. >> >> -- >> Tegger > |