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From: Tegger on 3 Feb 2010 14:33 jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecal > ltoyota_20100203001517 > > "US chides Toyota over recall" > > this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and > in much greater numbers than toyota. > > fact: the media has all but ignored it. Another take on all this: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/03/george-jonas-toyota-s-sticky-situation.aspx The author is a private pilot, and has raced motorcycles for many years. He has some knowledge of machinery. -- Tegger
From: Grumpy AuContraire on 3 Feb 2010 16:46 Tegger wrote: > jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in > news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net: > >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecal >> ltoyota_20100203001517 >> >> "US chides Toyota over recall" >> >> this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. >> >> fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and >> in much greater numbers than toyota. >> >> fact: the media has all but ignored it. > > > > Another take on all this: > http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/03/george-jonas-toyota-s-sticky-situation.aspx > The author is a private pilot, and has raced motorcycles for > many years. He has some knowledge of machinery. Good reference that amplifies the need to educate drivers as to emergency procedures common to all vehicles. As a licensed pilot, a lot of this is incorporated in training. As a certified SCUBA diver, a lot of this is incorporated in training. I have long advocated that getting a driver's license should encompass more than parallel parking etc. Everyone behind the wheel should be aware of automotive basics as well as driving technique. That includes emergency responses to sudden life threatening events. Further, cars have become far too complex for what they are expected to deliver. Airplanes go through strict regimens of maintenance while cars don't. Yet both approach each other with regard the degree of operating complexity. Simply put, a substantial number of people behind the wheel just don't belong there... JT
From: News on 3 Feb 2010 17:04 Conscience wrote: > On 2010-02-03 13:46:35 -0800, Grumpy AuContraire > <GrumpyOne(a)GrumpyvilleNOT.com> said: > >> Simply put, a substantial number of people behind the wheel just don't >> belong there... > > From your mouth, to God's ears. > > Ever drive in Arizona? > Flaw-duh?
From: Tony Harding on 3 Feb 2010 17:15 On 02/03/10 16:46, Grumpy AuContraire wrote: > Tegger wrote: >> jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in >> news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net: >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecal >>> ltoyota_20100203001517 >>> "US chides Toyota over recall" >>> >>> this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. >>> >>> fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and >>> in much greater numbers than toyota. >>> >>> fact: the media has all but ignored it. >> >> >> >> Another take on all this: >> http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/03/george-jonas-toyota-s-sticky-situation.aspx >> >> The author is a private pilot, and has raced motorcycles for >> many years. He has some knowledge of machinery. > > > Good reference that amplifies the need to educate drivers as to > emergency procedures common to all vehicles. > > As a licensed pilot, a lot of this is incorporated in training. > > As a certified SCUBA diver, a lot of this is incorporated in training. > > I have long advocated that getting a driver's license should encompass > more than parallel parking etc. Everyone behind the wheel should be > aware of automotive basics as well as driving technique. That includes > emergency responses to sudden life threatening events. > > Further, cars have become far too complex for what they are expected to > deliver. Airplanes go through strict regimens of maintenance while cars > don't. Yet both approach each other with regard the degree of operating > complexity. > > Simply put, a substantial number of people behind the wheel just don't > belong there... They vote, too. :(
From: Ray O on 3 Feb 2010 17:22
"News" <News(a)Group.Name> wrote in message news:yIednQTk5Y6cbvTWnZ2dnUVZ_uti4p2d(a)speakeasy.net... > Conscience wrote: >> On 2010-02-03 13:46:35 -0800, Grumpy AuContraire >> <GrumpyOne(a)GrumpyvilleNOT.com> said: >> >>> Simply put, a substantial number of people behind the wheel just don't >>> belong there... >> >> From your mouth, to God's ears. >> >> Ever drive in Arizona? >> > > > > Flaw-duh? Go you youtube and look up "What Old People Do For Fun" -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |