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From: Bob on 3 Feb 2010 12:41
Hello,

Regarding the body side moldings on the doors that used to be pretty
much standard, but now, apparently, in the "lesser" models an add on option.

In the "old" days I seem to remember that these strips were held on
mechanically.
Perhaps a riveted channel, with the molding being a slip-in piece.
Can't remember, exactly.

Anyway, the dealer tells me that for a new Corolla, these moldings, if
he adds them, are glued on.

Question: are the adhesives he would use to do this so good that the
piece will likely stay on for the life of the car ? I would have my
doubts, but I do realize structural adhesives have come a long way.

If I have him add them, anything to be concerned about ?

BTW: How does the factory fasten them if they do it; same way ?

Thanks,
Bob
From: Jeff Strickland on 3 Feb 2010 12:54
Typically the side moldings that run the length of the car are held on by
mechanical fasteners of some type. The edging on the doors is glued on. You
can buy the edging at an autoparts store, and if the surface is clean the
edging should remain for pretty much the life of the car.

If the molding is held on by clips (some mechanical anchoring of whatever
type is used), then the holes for the clips are drilled (pr stamped) at the
factory, and would exist on all cars of the model line. The basic molding
would be black,l and the upgraded molding would be color-matched to the car.
It is unlikely that there would be a body panel that has the holes to mount
the clips, and another body panel that is sans a mounting method for the
clips. This would create a parts-management nightmare. Normally, the option
for these side moldings is to color match them, or not.

So, you need to first ascertain that the car has a trim level that has the
moldings you are talking about, or not. Then ascretain that the model you
are considering does not have moldings at all. If the dealer is going to
glue a strip down the side of your car, I'm not sure this is 1.) worth the
cost, or 2.) something that will work very well. If the highest trim of the
car hasn't got body side molding, then I'd not pursue this any further. If
you're talking about the door-edge guards, these are glued on and will last
a very long time.






"Bob" <rgsros(a)notme.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> Regarding the body side moldings on the doors that used to be pretty much
> standard, but now, apparently, in the "lesser" models an add on option.
>
> In the "old" days I seem to remember that these strips were held on
> mechanically.
> Perhaps a riveted channel, with the molding being a slip-in piece.
> Can't remember, exactly.
>
> Anyway, the dealer tells me that for a new Corolla, these moldings, if he
> adds them, are glued on.
>
> Question: are the adhesives he would use to do this so good that the
> piece will likely stay on for the life of the car ? I would have my
> doubts, but I do realize structural adhesives have come a long way.
>
> If I have him add them, anything to be concerned about ?
>
> BTW: How does the factory fasten them if they do it; same way ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob


From: Mike Hunter on 3 Feb 2010 13:13
Side molding are a waist of money and a good profit maker for the
dealership. What gets you is not the other cars door edge it is his upper
door edge dogleg.


"Bob" <rgsros(a)notme.invalid> wrote in message
news:hkccg0$hp9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Hello,
>
> Regarding the body side moldings on the doors that used to be pretty much
> standard, but now, apparently, in the "lesser" models an add on option.
>
> In the "old" days I seem to remember that these strips were held on
> mechanically.
> Perhaps a riveted channel, with the molding being a slip-in piece.
> Can't remember, exactly.
>
> Anyway, the dealer tells me that for a new Corolla, these moldings, if he
> adds them, are glued on.
>
> Question: are the adhesives he would use to do this so good that the
> piece will likely stay on for the life of the car ? I would have my
> doubts, but I do realize structural adhesives have come a long way.
>
> If I have him add them, anything to be concerned about ?
>
> BTW: How does the factory fasten them if they do it; same way ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob


From: Ray O on 3 Feb 2010 14:27

"Bob" <rgsros(a)notme.invalid> wrote in message
news:hkccg0$hp9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Hello,
>
> Regarding the body side moldings on the doors that used to be pretty much
> standard, but now, apparently, in the "lesser" models an add on option.
>
> In the "old" days I seem to remember that these strips were held on
> mechanically.
> Perhaps a riveted channel, with the molding being a slip-in piece.
> Can't remember, exactly.
>
> Anyway, the dealer tells me that for a new Corolla, these moldings, if he
> adds them, are glued on.
>
> Question: are the adhesives he would use to do this so good that the
> piece will likely stay on for the life of the car ? I would have my
> doubts, but I do realize structural adhesives have come a long way.
>
> If I have him add them, anything to be concerned about ?
>
> BTW: How does the factory fasten them if they do it; same way ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

Bob,

Body side moldings are not a factory option for the 2010 Corolla, but
color-matched body side moldings are offered as a genuine Toyota accessory.

Body side moldings are generally held in place with a special adhesive tape
that generally lasts a pretty long time. Even if it doesn't stay in place
for the life of the car, a little Automotive Goop would probably hold it in
place for a long time. I used Automotive Goop to attach a cellular antenna
to the rear window, and when I went to remove it 10 years of car washes,
harsh winters and summers later, I had to use a putty knife to pry it off.

I would not be concerned about dealer installed genuine Toyota accessories,
but I would pass on door edge guards because they are not a genuine Toyota
accessory and tend to abrade the paint and trap moisture.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Tegger on 3 Feb 2010 14:38
"Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in
news:hkciql$gkl$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:


>
> I would not be concerned about dealer installed genuine Toyota
> accessories,


Provided the proper cleaning procedure is followed prior to sticking the
moldings in place.

The paint must be 100% squeaky clean without a trace of film of any kind.
Any contamination at all will result in the moldings eventually falling
off, usually starting at the ends.

Remember, you've probably got some low-paid lot jockey doing the work under
highly uncontrolled conditions.


--
Tegger

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