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From: tww1491 on 3 Feb 2010 19:19 "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecalltoyota_20100203001517 > > "US chides Toyota over recall" > > this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and in > much greater numbers than toyota. > > fact: the media has all but ignored it. > > here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered > consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting > manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being > subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. > > fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable > vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics assembling > their carp from the chinese componentry they import. > > if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need to > show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit does, > not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior product. > In the local paper a couple days ago, a 79 year old women crashed into a veterinarian's office claiming that the gas pedal on her new Toyota stuck. The dealer found nothing wrong with the car. With that story in the paper were reports of drivers complaining to the local Toyota dealer that they received speeding tickets because of "stuck" pedals. And so it has begun. And yet much more to come.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 19:38 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:17:45 -0800, jim beam wrote: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecalltoyota_20100203001517 > > "US chides Toyota over recall" > > this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and in > much greater numbers than toyota. > > fact: the media has all but ignored it. > > here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered > consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting > manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being > subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. > > fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable > vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics assembling > their carp from the chinese componentry they import. > > if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need to > show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit does, > not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior product. WOW! I AGREE WITH JIM BEAM!!! <thud!> Well said. Add to that the public likes to see the Big Dog take a stumble. If you want some real heartburn, watch how Brian Williams on NBC is going after Toyota...er...full throttle.
From: Tegger on 3 Feb 2010 19:41 "tww1491" <twaugh5(a)cox.net> wrote in news:Fooan.26826$fu3.6796(a)newsfe12.iad: > > > "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >> >> if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they >> need to show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like >> detroit does, not be politically naive and simply rely on selling >> superior product. >> > > In the local paper a couple days ago, a 79 year old women crashed into > a veterinarian's office claiming that the gas pedal on her new Toyota > stuck. The dealer found nothing wrong with the car. With that story in > the paper were reports of drivers complaining to the local Toyota > dealer that they received speeding tickets because of "stuck" pedals. > And so it has begun. And yet much more to come. > > Keep in mind that there have been exactly twelve (12) confirmed incidents of actual stuck gas pedals on Toyotas since October. Worldwide. Over 2.3 million vehicles. That's 0.00052%, in case anybody's counting. -- Tegger
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 19:42 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:04:48 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > REALLY? What brand has more than 4.5 MILLION vehicles, all around the > world, being recalled because of throttle sensor problems, than Toyota. > We would like to know if WE are driving one of those cars, that can get us > killed ;) And it's only the ones with the US designed, Chinese made CTS version of the pedal. THe Denso pedal does not suffer this problem. If you recall, many many times I have said I would only buy a Japanese made car with a "J" VIN. When I bought a new car, it was a Scion tC, for tow reasons: I like sporty coupes, and all Scions are made in Japan. Toyota has had trouble with it's North American plants right from the start. Recall many, many times people have advised owners of NUMMI made vehicles with Delco alternators and starters to replace them with Nippon-Denso made parts. > > > "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecalltoyota_20100203001517 >> >> "US chides Toyota over recall" >> >> this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. >> >> fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and >> in much greater numbers than toyota. >> >> fact: the media has all but ignored it. >> >> here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered >> consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting >> manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being >> subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. >> >> fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable >> vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics >> assembling their carp from the chinese componentry they import. >> >> if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need >> to show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit >> does, not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior >> product. >> >>
From: Tegger on 3 Feb 2010 19:54
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in news:pan.2010.02.04.00.42.31.697546(a)e86.GTS: > On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:04:48 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > >> REALLY? What brand has more than 4.5 MILLION vehicles, all around >> the world, being recalled because of throttle sensor problems, than >> Toyota. We would like to know if WE are driving one of those cars, >> that can get us killed ;) > > And it's only the ones with the US designed, Chinese made CTS version > of the pedal. The pedal is made in Canada. And there have been exactly twelve (12) actual confirmed incidents of stuck gas pedals in Toyotas since October. That's 0.00052% of the total 2.3 million vehicles. -- Tegger |