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From: jr92 on 4 Feb 2010 23:56 On Feb 3, 7:19 pm, "tww1491" <twau...(a)cox.net> wrote: > "jim beam" <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > > news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > > > > > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrec... > > > "US chides Toyota over recall" > > > this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > > fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and in > > much greater numbers than toyota. > > > fact: the media has all but ignored it. > > > here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered > > consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting > > manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being > > subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. > > > fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable > > vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics assembling > > their carp from the chinese componentry they import. > > > if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need to > > show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit does, > > not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior product. > > In the local paper a couple days ago, a 79 year old women crashed into a > veterinarian's office claiming that the gas pedal on her new Toyota stuck.. > The dealer found nothing wrong with the car. With that story in the paper > were reports of drivers complaining to the local Toyota dealer that they > received speeding tickets because of "stuck" pedals. And so it has begun. > And yet much more to come.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - That does not mean that Toyota does not have problems with sticking accelerators. Fact#1 Toyota is selling products in which sometimes, the accelerator sticks open, creating a safety hazard. Fact:#2 There are some people who will try to take advantage of the situation for monetary gain. Fact# 3 Fact number 2 does not mean Fact number 1 does not exist.
From: jr92 on 5 Feb 2010 00:02 On Feb 4, 3:18 am, "Dave D" <dtdod...(a)acsalaska.net> wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > > news:pan.2010.02.04.00.38.36.169486(a)e86.GTS... > > > > > > > On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:17:45 -0800, jim beam wrote: > > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrec.... > > >> "US chides Toyota over recall" > > >> this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > >> fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and in > >> much greater numbers than toyota. > > >> fact: the media has all but ignored it. > > >> here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered > >> consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting > >> manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being > >> subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. > > >> fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable > >> vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics > >> assembling > >> their carp from the chinese componentry they import. > > >> if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need > >> to > >> show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit > >> does, > >> not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior product. > > > WOW! I AGREE WITH JIM BEAM!!! <thud!> > > > Well said. Add to that the public likes to see the Big Dog take a stumble. > > If you want some real heartburn, watch how Brian Williams on NBC is going > > after Toyota...er...full throttle. > > Wasn't Brian Williams part of the "Exploding Chevy Trucks Fiasco"? Oh, no he > wasn't. I remember now, that was Stone(d) Phillips...Too bad.... > Almost forgot about the 'staged' event that was made for the sole purpose of hurting GM truck sales. Just another example of the extremes the media would go to in order to slam American nameplates. However, sticking accelerators, sludging engines and rusting suspension parts on Toyotas made over the past 6 or 7 years are very REAL! > DaveD > > > > - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: Tegger on 5 Feb 2010 01:07 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in news:4b6b665b$0$20568$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net: > It's the fault of the Unions? I thought it was the fault of > President Bush Obama is a union stooge. He's even admitted it. -- Tegger
From: Tegger on 5 Feb 2010 01:17 jr92 <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote in news:28a1db53-7537-473d-8873-d2afacbd189a(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com: > On Feb 3, 10:17�am, jim beam <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrec. >> .. >> >> "US chides Toyota over recall" >> >> this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > > > > You mean, like the Japanese version of protectionism that, in 2008, > exported over 2 million vechicles to the US, while at the same time, > only allowing 12 thousand American nameplates to be imported > there?????? So what? Maybe the Japs simply don't like our cars. Ever thought of that? If WE won't buy them, why would THEY? There's a reason Toyota has the market share they do, in spite of all the hatred directed against them from certain quarters. -- Tegger
From: Tegger on 5 Feb 2010 01:58
jr92 <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote in news:a47b30e1-88d4-48d0-b605-2ca578017e50(a)m31g2000yqd.googlegroups.com: > > > > That does not mean that Toyota does not have problems with sticking > accelerators. What about Ford? They account for 28% of SUA incidents. How come nobody's up in arms about that? > > > Fact#1 > > Toyota is selling products in which sometimes, the accelerator sticks > open, creating a safety hazard. Twelve confirmed stuck-pedal incidents in 2.3 million vehicles. That's 0.00052%. And of the five deaths so far, at least four had nothing to do with the CTS pedal assembly. > > > Fact:#2 > > There are some people who will try to take advantage of the situation > for monetary gain. Like the labor unions. They stand to gain mightily from this, in addition to getting revenge against Toyota for shutting down NUMMI. > > > Fact# 3 > > Fact number 2 does not mean Fact number 1 does not exist. > No, but "Fact #1" seems to be heavily overblown just now... -- Tegger |