From: jim beam on 3 Feb 2010 10:17 http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecalltoyota_20100203001517 "US chides Toyota over recall" this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and in much greater numbers than toyota. fact: the media has all but ignored it. here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics assembling their carp from the chinese componentry they import. if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need to show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit does, not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior product.
From: Guy on 3 Feb 2010 11:22 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:17:45 -0800, jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecalltoyota_20100203001517 > >"US chides Toyota over recall" > >this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > >fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and >in much greater numbers than toyota. > >fact: the media has all but ignored it. > >here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered >consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting >manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being >subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. > >fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable >vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics >assembling their carp from the chinese componentry they import. > >if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need >to show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit >does, not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior product. You were right to begin with .... b.s.
From: Tony Harding on 3 Feb 2010 12:02 On 02/03/10 10:17, jim beam wrote: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecalltoyota_20100203001517 > > > "US chides Toyota over recall" > > this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and > in much greater numbers than toyota. > > fact: the media has all but ignored it. > > here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered > consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting > manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being > subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. > > fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable > vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics > assembling their carp from the chinese componentry they import. > > if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need > to show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit > does, not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior product. Take a pill, relax. ("It's only Chinatown") :)
From: Mike Hunter on 3 Feb 2010 12:04 REALLY? What brand has more than 4.5 MILLION vehicles, all around the world, being recalled because of throttle sensor problems, than Toyota. We would like to know if WE are driving one of those cars, that can get us killed ;) "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecalltoyota_20100203001517 > > "US chides Toyota over recall" > > this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and in > much greater numbers than toyota. > > fact: the media has all but ignored it. > > here we are, hot on the heels of political dismay at the unconsidered > consequences of their ridiculous "cash for clunkers" program benefiting > manufacturers of fuel efficient cars, not domestic gas guzzlers, being > subjected to politically motivated hysterical xenophobia. > > fact: toyota sells better, more fuel efficient, safer, more reliable > vehicles using american parts and american labor than domestics assembling > their carp from the chinese componentry they import. > > if toyota needs to learn a lesson from this fiasco, it's that they need to > show up in washington and hand over their lobbying cash like detroit does, > not be politically naive and simply rely on selling superior product. >
From: Tegger on 3 Feb 2010 14:03
jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in news:SYadnYVv5qcHDvTWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100203/ts_alt_afp/japanusautocompanyrecal > ltoyota_20100203001517 > > "US chides Toyota over recall" > > this is back-door protectionist political bullshit. > > fact: ford, bmw, and others have all had throttle sensor problems, and > in much greater numbers than toyota. > > fact: the media has all but ignored it. Currently Toyota accounts for 41% of all unintended acceleration incidents. Ford accounts for 28%. Both Toyota and Ford have about a 16% market share apiece. GM and Chrysler have UA numbers smaller than their market shares. I don't know the exact number. -- Tegger |