Toyota Tundra: First Impression
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From: Jeff on 1 Mar 2007 21:12 "Dante" <dante(a)xmission.com> wrote in message news:es7e7p$8mu$1(a)news.xmission.com... > Ed White wrote: >> On Mar 1, 2:35 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...(a)my-deja.com> >> wrote: >>> Evil top poster Mike Hunter wrote: >>> >>>> The Tundra is a second rate truck compared to what GM, Ford and >>>> Dodge have to offer and for less money. >>> If the trucks from GM, Ford, and Dodge are superior, why can't be sold >>> for higher prices than the Tundra? >> >> That is a very good question. I spent a lot of time shopping for a new >> truck last year. I didn't want a full size truck. I wanted someting a >> little smaller, but bigger than a Ranger. However, I did priced larger >> trucks. I was shocked when I found I could get an F250 for less than a >> Tundra. It was ridiculous. I don't understand how Toyota could sell >> one at all. A fourth rate truck for a first rate price. It was silly. >> I didn't want the F250, and couldn't stomach the Toyota dealers. I >> tried to negotiate a price for a Tacoma, but the Toyota dealers were >> so full of s$%t that I ended up in a Frontier. Tacomas are over >> priced to begin with, and the local dealers try to add ridiculous doc >> fees. Yet despite screwing their Customers they are able to sell the >> trucks. It make me think Toyota buyers are brain dead. If you go >> merely by specifications, the Tacoma is inferior to the Frontier. If >> you drive one, it is even more inferior. Yet Toyota charges thousand >> more. Go figure. Do Toyota buyers even consider anything else? >> >> Ed >> > > Do you really think that many people are brain dead? Seriously. Put your > pride aside and look at the facts. It is not likely that there are that > many brain dead people out there. This means that for some reason Toyotas > must be superior. If you've never owned one then I can see your > confusion. I disagree. This means that Toyotas are percieved to be better than the others. It doesn't mean that they are better. Hey, people will buy a Corolla over a GM that is nearly identical build on the same assembly line. Go figure. Jeff > Dante
From: Jeff on 1 Mar 2007 21:12 "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message news:45e742bd$0$16286$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... > "wowdog" <wowdog.2mrakz(a)no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in message > news:wowdog.2mrakz(a)no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au... >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv4kGXwe4mE&NR >> >> >> I don't know why this guy hates Toyota so much?!?! >> >> >> -- >> wowdog >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> wowdog's Profile: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/member.php?userid=638 >> View this thread: >> http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181434 >> > > I don't know about why - or whether - he hates Toyotas but, whoever he is, > he surely does think he's Awfully Important. He claims to be a retired engineer from Ford. > Are we looking at "mike hunt?" I think so. He claims that he has lots of stock in Ford. Jeff > Toyota's making lots of money; they are heavily roboticized and automated > and they do not lack for capital. Their people are good. They get top > engineers from the best Japanese universities (and American, now, too). > If they built the frame with bolted cross-members instead of using their > robotic welders then I think that rather than blindly criticizing it, I'd > be asking myself why they did that and what the advantage is. > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >
From: dh on 1 Mar 2007 21:50 "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:bKLFh.4271$854.535(a)trnddc04... > > "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message > news:45e742bd$0$16286$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... >> "wowdog" <wowdog.2mrakz(a)no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in message >> news:wowdog.2mrakz(a)no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au... >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv4kGXwe4mE&NR >>> I don't know why this guy hates Toyota so much?!?! >>> -- >>> wowdog >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> wowdog's Profile: >>> http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/member.php?userid=638 >>> View this thread: >>> http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181434 >>> >> I don't know about why - or whether - he hates Toyotas but, whoever he >> is, he surely does think he's Awfully Important. > > He claims to be a retired engineer from Ford. > >> Are we looking at "mike hunt?" > > I think so. He claims that he has lots of stock in Ford. > > Jeff I listened to the intro more carefully. He says he's "Rick Titus" and this seems to be him: http://www.driverstalk.com/bios.htm He also has a Wiki entry which, strangely, is EXACTLY the same text. He's also done promo videos for Ford (although this isn't played up in forums where he's trying to appear neutral). I did get a laugh out of the way he was careful to don a "disguise" in his video, because he sure didn't need one to go unnoticed. Obscurity, your name is "Rick Titus." >> Toyota's making lots of money; they are heavily roboticized and automated >> and they do not lack for capital. Their people are good. They get top >> engineers from the best Japanese universities (and American, now, too). >> If they built the frame with bolted cross-members instead of using their >> robotic welders then I think that rather than blindly criticizing it, I'd >> be asking myself why they did that and what the advantage is. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Scott in Florida on 2 Mar 2007 09:45 On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:12:22 GMT, "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >I disagree. This means that Toyotas are percieved to be better than the >others. It doesn't mean that they are better. Hey, people will buy a Corolla >over a GM that is nearly identical build on the same assembly line. Go >figure. > >Jeff All I can go on is personal experience. I've almost always kept cars till the wheels fell off. My '92 Corolla with 204,000 miles is just as good as new. I can not say that about any other American car I've ever owned. Not one of them made it to 200K and believe me I tried. Now everyone in my immediate and extended family drives Toyota and we are ALL happy. -- Scott in Florida Global Warming....the new Liberal Religion
From: Jeff on 2 Mar 2007 09:54
"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message news:6vdgu2pnslu1anasnjld0drcdes05nb5p3(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:12:22 GMT, "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >>I disagree. This means that Toyotas are percieved to be better than the >>others. It doesn't mean that they are better. Hey, people will buy a >>Corolla >>over a GM that is nearly identical build on the same assembly line. Go >>figure. >> >>Jeff > > All I can go on is personal experience. > > I've almost always kept cars till the wheels fell off. > > My '92 Corolla with 204,000 miles is just as good as new. I can not > say that about any other American car I've ever owned. Not one of > them made it to 200K and believe me I tried. > > Now everyone in my immediate and extended family drives Toyota and we > are ALL happy. And everyone in my family who drives Fords are really happy, too. Both families' experiences are just anecdote. Jeff > -- > Scott in Florida > > Global Warming....the new Liberal Religion > |