Toyota Tundra: First Impression
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From: Mike Hunter on 1 Mar 2007 12:03 The market will determine which offers the better truck, and Ford currently sells at least five times as many F150s. You are free to believe whatever you choose. mike "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:zVCFh.11453$tA1.4345(a)trndny02... > > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:RpudnUn9qNJFc3vYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >> There is not question competition is good for the breed, but the Tundra >> does not compare to other trucks currently on the market in its price >> range. > > Can you be specific? I just compared similarly priced Tudra and F150 (4x4, > small V8, regular cab), and found they they had similar performance, > similar towing, similar payload and similar price. I would bet the take > home price is cheaper for F150 because the dealer would give a bigger > discount. > > All of the reviews that I have read suggests that Toyota did a good job in > designing the truck, such as this summary from Car and Driver: "The Bottom > Line: We have yet to put this giant through its formal test paces, and > there is much to learn in the months ahead. But assessed in terms of > Toyota's goal-a big job truck to be taken seriously by guys who actually > put their rigs to work (Toyota calls them "True Truckers")-we have to say > mission accomplished." > > Can you please provide the details when a similar Tundra and Ford are > compared? > > Jeff > >
From: Mike Hunter on 1 Mar 2007 12:07 When one of my grandchildren wants a new vehicle, I will pay half the cost of buying any domestic vehicle they choose. They pay ALL of the costs of operating their vehicle. As a result they take good care of THEIR investment ;) mike "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message news:730eu21l1jneptnge375tu67bc5rrdv0ta(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:19:03 GMT, "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >>The only question I have is why you would have to pay for a new truck if >>he >>got his hands on your Frontier. >> >>I believe in natural consequences. If a child runs into a wall, he soon >>learns that it hurts and stops running into the wall. >> >>The natural consequence of being rough with a Vue is that he pays for the >>repairs, not you. He will learn not to be rough with vehicles or learn to >>get a 2nd job. >> >>Jeff > > I have to totally agree! > > Why in hell would anyone keep providing cars to kids that can't/won't > take care of them. > > Actually why in hell provide ANY cars to kids at all? > > Earn the f*ing money if you want a car and pay for it and the > insurance! > > -- > > > Scott in Florida > >
From: Dante on 1 Mar 2007 12:18 C. E. White wrote: > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:eo6dnWCypbA6cnvYnZ2dnUVZ_r6vnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >> Ride in an older model Toyota or Dodge truck, listen to the squeaks >> and rattles, it soon become apparent that the 'toughness' IS >> important in a truck >> >> mike > > I have my own toughness test - my 17 year old son. So far only two > vehicles have passed - 1999 Ford Ranger and a 2006 Ford Mustang. > Failed vehicles - 2003 Saturn Vue, 1997 Pontiac Firebird, 1992 F150 - > although both the Firebird and F150 had many miles at the time they > failed the test. The F150 failure only cost a few hundred dollars. The > Firebird's was terminal. The Vue's failure was partially covered by > warranty, but hideously expensive - after it was mobile again I got > rid of it. I won't let him touch my Frontier - I can't afford another > new truck this year and I don't think the Frontier would last long > with him driving. Apparently the Mustang is bullet proof. He has put > more miles on it than all the other vehicle combined and the only > "failure" was a destroyed rear tire. I can't really blame that on > Ford. Then again, as far as I know he hasn't taken the Mustang off > road.... > > I wonder if I can get Toyota to lend me a Tundra for him to test. > Might make for an interesting experiment. > > Ed > > Since when are there so many Ford and GM lovers reading a Toyota group? Seems to me that these Ford and GM advocates are getting awfully nervous lately. It's actually kind of funny. Dante
From: Dante on 1 Mar 2007 12:19 Scott in Florida wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:19:03 GMT, "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >> The only question I have is why you would have to pay for a new truck if he >> got his hands on your Frontier. >> >> I believe in natural consequences. If a child runs into a wall, he soon >> learns that it hurts and stops running into the wall. >> >> The natural consequence of being rough with a Vue is that he pays for the >> repairs, not you. He will learn not to be rough with vehicles or learn to >> get a 2nd job. >> >> Jeff > > I have to totally agree! > > Why in hell would anyone keep providing cars to kids that can't/won't > take care of them. > > Actually why in hell provide ANY cars to kids at all? > > Earn the f*ing money if you want a car and pay for it and the > insurance! > Some studies show that intelligence is hereditary. :) Dante
From: Dante on 1 Mar 2007 12:24
Mike Hunter wrote: > When one of my grandchildren wants a new vehicle, I will pay half the cost > of buying any domestic vehicle they choose. They pay ALL of the costs of > operating their vehicle. As a result they take good care of THEIR > investment ;) > > > mike > > > "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message > news:730eu21l1jneptnge375tu67bc5rrdv0ta(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:19:03 GMT, "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> The only question I have is why you would have to pay for a new truck if >>> he >>> got his hands on your Frontier. >>> >>> I believe in natural consequences. If a child runs into a wall, he soon >>> learns that it hurts and stops running into the wall. >>> >>> The natural consequence of being rough with a Vue is that he pays for the >>> repairs, not you. He will learn not to be rough with vehicles or learn to >>> get a 2nd job. >>> >>> Jeff >> I have to totally agree! >> >> Why in hell would anyone keep providing cars to kids that can't/won't >> take care of them. >> >> Actually why in hell provide ANY cars to kids at all? >> >> Earn the f*ing money if you want a car and pay for it and the >> insurance! >> >> -- >> >> >> Scott in Florida >> >> > > Does your use of domestic include all vehicles made in the USA. Does all of the parts used to construct the vehicle have to be made in the USA? Dante |