From: C. E. White on

"dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
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> Just how are they screwing themselves?

My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly equipped
Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she just wants the
car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based on the experiences of
people I personally know, the is likely to just as well as the RAV4 for $4k
less.Throwing away $4K because it says "Toyota" is screwing yourself.
Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made $5k more for his Tacoma than I paid
for my better equipped Frontier. Throwing away $5k because it says "Toyota"
is screwing yourself.. Not even considering anything unless it says "Toyota"
on the vehicle is screwing yourself.

Ed


From: Bonehenge (B A R R Y) on
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:29:36 GMT, "C. E. White"
<cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote:

> She wouldn't even consider an Escape.

Are you aware that certain years and models of Ford Escape set new
lows for resale value percentage?

I didn't think so... <G>
From: C. E. White on

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <DwightSchrute(a)DunderMifflin.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:29:36 GMT, "C. E. White"
> <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> She wouldn't even consider an Escape.
>
> Are you aware that certain years and models of Ford Escape set new
> lows for resale value percentage?

And this would make absolutely no difference to her. Her old Camry was a
hard sale at $500. Her old Pymouth van was worth just as much ($500) to the
junk yard .

And this sounds like a really good reason to purchase a 1 or 2 year old used
Escape.

I looked at the resale valuses for Escapes. Looks like for the first two
years they really take a big hit. This is probably a result of all the
incentives Ford has been offering on new Escapes. For most people, the
payments on a new Escape would be less than the payements on a 2 or 3 year
old Escape. This of course drives the resale value down. After the vehicles
are more than 3 years old, the RAV4 and Escape resale values are much
closer, even though RAV4 buyers paid more for their vehiecles.

Escape XLS - 4 cylinder 2WD Automatic Private Party Value, Good Condition,
Average Mileage

2001 - 6985
2002 - 8630
2003 - 9005
2004 - 10320
2005 - 11620

RAV4 - 4 cylinder, 2WD, Automatic, Private Party Value, Good Condition,
Average Mileage

2001 - 8615
2002 - 9025
2003 - 11835
2004 - 14550
2005 - 16315

> I didn't think so... <G>

I ponited out it is irrelevant to someone who drives a car until it is dirt.

Ed


From: dh on
"C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <DwightSchrute(a)DunderMifflin.com> wrote in message
> news:4mcmu29eul3g9otl4kvse3q9v5jnc7qni3(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:29:36 GMT, "C. E. White"
>> <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> She wouldn't even consider an Escape.
>>
>> Are you aware that certain years and models of Ford Escape set new
>> lows for resale value percentage?
>
> And this would make absolutely no difference to her. Her old Camry was a
> hard sale at $500. Her old Pymouth van was worth just as much ($500) to
> the junk yard .
>
> And this sounds like a really good reason to purchase a 1 or 2 year old
> used Escape.

Yeah, except she wanted a new car.

> I looked at the resale valuses for Escapes. Looks like for the first two
> years they really take a big hit. This is probably a result of all the
> incentives Ford has been offering on new Escapes. For most people, the
> payments on a new Escape would be less than the payements on a 2 or 3 year
> old Escape. This of course drives the resale value down. After the
> vehicles are more than 3 years old, the RAV4 and Escape resale values are
> much closer, even though RAV4 buyers paid more for their vehiecles.

Reality check - back then, new Ravs were not as expensive as today.

> Escape XLS - 4 cylinder 2WD Automatic Private Party Value, Good Condition,
> Average Mileage
>
> 2001 - 6985
> 2002 - 8630
> 2003 - 9005
> 2004 - 10320
> 2005 - 11620
>
> RAV4 - 4 cylinder, 2WD, Automatic, Private Party Value, Good Condition,
> Average Mileage
>
> 2001 - 8615
> 2002 - 9025
> 2003 - 11835
> 2004 - 14550
> 2005 - 16315

Reality check - I just looked to see what's offered for sale around here in
Escapes and Ravs. The median asking price for Escapes is $5,000 less than
for the Rav ($9K vs $14K).

>> I didn't think so... <G>
>
> I ponited out it is irrelevant to someone who drives a car until it is
> dirt.
>
> Ed

Actually, it's not. Needs change and if you've bought a car that
depreciates like it was going over a cliff, that limits your options when
your needs change.

And superior long-term reliability is *really* important to people who drive
the car forever. I don't think Ford's there quite yet.



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From: Mike Hunter on
Can't prove it by me, my local Chevy dealer has two dozen Toyotas of all
types on his lot. Do a search and I believe you will find the 2006 Tundra
holds the record for on unsold vehicles LOL


mike


"dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>>I see a lot of Toyotas traded in on other brands. I wonder why.
>>
>> mike
>
> Really? How odd, then, that they have no Toyotas for sale at the local
> Chevy dealer. That's the place to go, though, if you're looking for a
> brand-new '06 Chevrolet; they still have quite a few. Even a few
> brand-new '05's, if you're interested.