Toyota Tundra: First Impression
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From: Mike Hunter on 4 Mar 2007 19:02 That becomes painfully obvious when one compares the Vibe and The Matrix as well. The proof is in the pudding as they say, when it comes to what buyers prefer. The Escape is the number one selling small SUV. The guys in this NG would like to have us believe all Toyotas are better than any others. Buyers think otherwise. The only Toyotas that are number one sellers in their class are the Camry and the Prius. I every other, of the twenty some classes, some other manufacturer is number one and the majority of number one sellers are domestics. mike "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:keEGh.8537$_73.7442(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message > news:45e8ebe9$0$16266$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... > > >> Just how are they screwing themselves? > > My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly equipped > Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she just wants the > car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based on the experiences > of people I personally know, the is likely to just as well as the RAV4 for > $4k less.Throwing away $4K because it says "Toyota" is screwing yourself. > Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made $5k more for his Tacoma than I > paid for my better equipped Frontier. Throwing away $5k because it says > "Toyota" is screwing yourself.. Not even considering anything unless it > says "Toyota" on the vehicle is screwing yourself. > > Ed >
From: Mike Hunter on 4 Mar 2007 19:07 One must consider resale value on the percentage retained of the actual selling price not the MSRP. At three year old Toyota may appear to be worth more than a domestic by $4,000 in NADA, but when you consider the domestic cost $5,000 less to drive home when new, it is not as good, let alone better. mike "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <DwightSchrute(a)DunderMifflin.com> wrote in message news:4mcmu29eul3g9otl4kvse3q9v5jnc7qni3(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:29:36 GMT, "C. E. White" > <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > >> She wouldn't even consider an Escape. > > Are you aware that certain years and models of Ford Escape set new > lows for resale value percentage? > > I didn't think so... <G>
From: Jeff on 4 Mar 2007 19:21 "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:efqdnTwdnoQVxnbYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > Can't prove it by me, my local Chevy dealer has two dozen Toyotas of all > types on his lot. Do a search and I believe you will find the 2006 > Tundra holds the record for on unsold vehicles LOL > > > mike > > > "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message > news:45ea48a3$0$16409$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message >> news:y72dnTnSbsUoSnXYnZ2dnUVZ_o2vnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >>>I see a lot of Toyotas traded in on other brands. I wonder why. >>> >>> mike >> >> Really? How odd, then, that they have no Toyotas for sale at the local >> Chevy dealer. That's the place to go, though, if you're looking for a >> brand-new '06 Chevrolet; they still have quite a few. Even a few >> brand-new '05's, if you're interested. http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/stories/MYSA030207.01C.tundrasales.2d9ce64.html http://www.reuters.com/article/tnBasicIndustries-SP/idUSN2130171420070221 http://www.smartmoney.com/bn/ON/index.cfm?story=ON-20070301-000982-1235 From these reports, you can see that Toyota is selling its new truck pretty fast. It has about 4 or 5 weeks supply. That compares to about 15 weeks supply for Fords. The big 3 now have the most unsold inventory as well as the how long the supply will last, i.e., how many days it will take to sell the same number of vehicles as they have in inventory. Jeff
From: dh on 4 Mar 2007 19:21 "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:efqdnTwdnoQVxnbYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > Can't prove it by me, my local Chevy dealer has two dozen Toyotas of all > types on his lot. Do a search and I believe you will find the 2006 > Tundra holds the record for on unsold vehicles LOL > > mike I doubt it. LOL. You've never been right before. LOL. > "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message > news:45ea48a3$0$16409$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message >> news:y72dnTnSbsUoSnXYnZ2dnUVZ_o2vnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >>>I see a lot of Toyotas traded in on other brands. I wonder why. >>> >>> mike >> >> Really? How odd, then, that they have no Toyotas for sale at the local >> Chevy dealer. That's the place to go, though, if you're looking for a >> brand-new '06 Chevrolet; they still have quite a few. Even a few >> brand-new '05's, if you're interested. > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: dh on 4 Mar 2007 19:28
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:XcednbMmnrzdw3bYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > That becomes painfully obvious when one compares the Vibe and The Matrix > as well. The proof is in the pudding as they say, when it comes to what > buyers prefer. The Escape is the number one selling small SUV. The guys > in this NG would like to have us believe all Toyotas are better than any > others. Buyers think otherwise. The only Toyotas that are number one > sellers in their class are the Camry and the Prius. I every other, of the > twenty some classes, some other manufacturer is number one and the > majority of number one sellers are domestics. > > mike If GM's so wonderful, why are they losing money on their cars? Yes, there's a cost difference, but it pales in comparison to the price difference. Someone linked an article today pointing out that the Impala is selling for 35% LESS than a Camry. In economic terms, that means Chevy has to discount an Impala to that point before car buyers think it's equivalent to a Toyota Camry. If GM's are BETTER, shouldn't they be selling for MORE? > "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:keEGh.8537$_73.7442(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> >> "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message >> news:45e8ebe9$0$16266$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... >> >> >>> Just how are they screwing themselves? >> >> My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly equipped >> Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she just wants the >> car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based on the experiences >> of people I personally know, the is likely to just as well as the RAV4 >> for $4k less.Throwing away $4K because it says "Toyota" is screwing >> yourself. Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made $5k more for his Tacoma >> than I paid for my better equipped Frontier. Throwing away $5k because it >> says "Toyota" is screwing yourself.. Not even considering anything unless >> it says "Toyota" on the vehicle is screwing yourself. >> >> Ed >> > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |