From: Jeff on 4 Mar 2007 19:39 "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:XcednbMmnrzdw3bYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > That becomes painfully obvious when one compares the Vibe and The Matrix > as well. The proof is in the pudding as they say, when it comes to what > buyers prefer. The Escape is the number one selling small SUV. The guys > in this NG would like to have us believe all Toyotas are better than any > others. Buyers think otherwise. The only Toyotas that are number one > sellers in their class are the Camry and the Prius. I every other, of the > twenty some classes, some other manufacturer is number one and the > majority of number one sellers are domestics. > > mike > > > "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:keEGh.8537$_73.7442(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> >> "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message >> news:45e8ebe9$0$16266$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... >> >> >>> Just how are they screwing themselves? >> >> My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly equipped >> Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she just wants the >> car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based on the experiences >> of people I personally know, the is likely to just as well as the RAV4 >> for $4k less.Throwing away $4K because it says "Toyota" is screwing >> yourself. Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made $5k more for his Tacoma >> than I paid for my better equipped Frontier. Throwing away $5k because it >> says "Toyota" is screwing yourself.. Not even considering anything unless >> it says "Toyota" on the vehicle is screwing yourself. >> >> Ed I would love to the list of the top selling vehicles in each class. Do you have a link to it? Thanks. jeff
From: Mike Hunter on 4 Mar 2007 19:54 Does that mean your think I should get rid of my 1941 as well as my 1964, 1971, 1972, and 1983 because the will not last very long? Maybe I should sell them. They have from 110K to 300K on the clock and worth at least four to ten times what I paid for them ;) mike "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message news:45eb4841$0$16321$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... > "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message > > Reality check - I just looked to see what's offered for sale around here > in Escapes and Ravs. The median asking price for Escapes is $5,000 less > than for the Rav ($9K vs $14K). > >>> I didn't think so... <G> >> >> I ponited out it is irrelevant to someone who drives a car until it is >> dirt. >> >> Ed > > Actually, it's not. Needs change and if you've bought a car that > depreciates like it was going over a cliff, that limits your options when > your needs change. > > And superior long-term reliability is *really* important to people who > drive the car forever. I don't think Ford's there quite yet. > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >
From: Wickeddoll� on 4 Mar 2007 20:04 "Jeff" <... > > "Mike Hunter" ... >> That becomes painfully obvious when one compares the Vibe and The Matrix >> as well. The proof is in the pudding as they say, when it comes to what >> buyers prefer. The Escape is the number one selling small SUV. The >> guys in this NG would like to have us believe all Toyotas are better than >> any others. Buyers think otherwise. The only Toyotas that are number one >> sellers in their class are the Camry and the Prius. I every other, of >> the twenty some classes, some other manufacturer is number one and the >> majority of number one sellers are domestics. >> >> mike >> >> >> "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:keEGh.8537$_73.7442(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>> >>> "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message >>> news:45e8ebe9$0$16266$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... >>> >>> >>>> Just how are they screwing themselves? >>> >>> My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly equipped >>> Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she just wants >>> the car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based on the >>> experiences of people I personally know, the is likely to just as well >>> as the RAV4 for $4k less.Throwing away $4K because it says "Toyota" is >>> screwing yourself. Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made $5k more for >>> his Tacoma than I paid for my better equipped Frontier. Throwing away >>> $5k because it says "Toyota" is screwing yourself.. Not even considering >>> anything unless it says "Toyota" on the vehicle is screwing yourself. >>> >>> Ed > > I would love to the list of the top selling vehicles in each class. Do you > have a link to it? > > Thanks. > > jeff He'll give you a tweaked Ford/GM site, anyway. Or he'll just ignore you altogether. He keeps trying to convince us that we're mindless Toyota groupies, who won't even consider another brand. While those types of folks certainly exist, I think he believes it represents most of us. I don't know why it bothers him that we love our cars/trucks - it has no impact on his life whatsoever, unless he has Ford/GM stock, or works for them in some way. He ignores those who say they *did* stick with Ford/GM vehicles for many years and found the quality lacking. We've been Toyota owners for about 20 years, and have always been very happy with the 3 Toyotas we've purchased new. What's wrong with sticking with what works?! SHEESH. If you love Fords, GMs, Chrysler, etc., more power to you - but don't be slamming others for their choices. Natalie
From: Mike Hunter on 4 Mar 2007 20:13 Depends on how many trucks the dealership sells in a week. If they sell 100 a week they need around a 1000 on hand . If they sell only 10, 80 will do. A sixty day supply on the ground is ideal, except at intro in the fall through balance out in the spring, then a ninety day supply is better. Don't for get Ford sells F150s at a rate around six times that of the Tundra and Ford has around twice as many dealerships mike "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:7oJGh.582$3i.42(a)trnddc01... > > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:efqdnTwdnoQVxnbYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >> Can't prove it by me, my local Chevy dealer has two dozen Toyotas of all >> types on his lot. Do a search and I believe you will find the 2006 >> Tundra holds the record for on unsold vehicles LOL >> >> >> mike >> >> > From these reports, you can see that Toyota is selling its new truck > pretty fast. It has about 4 or 5 weeks supply. That compares to about 15 > weeks supply for Fords. > > The big 3 now have the most unsold inventory as well as the how long the > supply will last, i.e., how many days it will take to sell the same number > of vehicles as they have in inventory. > > Jeff
From: Mike Hunter on 4 Mar 2007 20:15
Do your own homework....son ;) Gotta go, our plane is about to land in Philly mike "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:lFJGh.584$3i.371(a)trnddc01... > > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:XcednbMmnrzdw3bYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >> That becomes painfully obvious when one compares the Vibe and The Matrix >> as well. The proof is in the pudding as they say, when it comes to what >> buyers prefer. The Escape is the number one selling small SUV. The >> guys in this NG would like to have us believe all Toyotas are better than >> any others. Buyers think otherwise. The only Toyotas that are number one >> sellers in their class are the Camry and the Prius. I every other, of >> the twenty some classes, some other manufacturer is number one and the >> majority of number one sellers are domestics. >> >> mike >> >> >> "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:keEGh.8537$_73.7442(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>> >>> "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message >>> news:45e8ebe9$0$16266$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... >>> >>> >>>> Just how are they screwing themselves? >>> >>> My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly equipped >>> Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she just wants >>> the car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based on the >>> experiences of people I personally know, the is likely to just as well >>> as the RAV4 for $4k less.Throwing away $4K because it says "Toyota" is >>> screwing yourself. Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made $5k more for >>> his Tacoma than I paid for my better equipped Frontier. Throwing away >>> $5k because it says "Toyota" is screwing yourself.. Not even considering >>> anything unless it says "Toyota" on the vehicle is screwing yourself. >>> >>> Ed > > I would love to the list of the top selling vehicles in each class. Do you > have a link to it? > > Thanks. > > jeff |