From: Mike Hunter on
I have owned a least a dozen Toyota/Lexus vehicles. I never said they are
not good vehicles . In my opinion they make great stuff, but today so does
every other manufacturer. In my opinion Toyotas are over priced or under
powered. That is the only thing I say that one could say is negative, but
it is a fact.

I never tell any body not to buy a Toyota and buy another brand. Like I
said you free to spend your money wherever you choose. On the other hand
you and others who have not owned a late model GM or Ford vehicle keep
telling others that the late model GM or Ford vehicle are not as good or
that they are junk and that simply is not factual. That is that I point out

mike


"Wickeddoll´┐Ż" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff" <...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" ...
>>> That becomes painfully obvious when one compares the Vibe and The Matrix
>>> as well. The proof is in the pudding as they say, when it comes to what
>>> buyers prefer. The Escape is the number one selling small SUV. The
>>> guys in this NG would like to have us believe all Toyotas are better
>>> than any others. Buyers think otherwise. The only Toyotas that are
>>> number one sellers in their class are the Camry and the Prius. I every
>>> other, of the twenty some classes, some other manufacturer is number one
>>> and the majority of number one sellers are domestics.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>>
>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:keEGh.8537$_73.7442(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just how are they screwing themselves?
>>>>
>>>> My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly
>>>> equipped Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she
>>>> just wants the car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based
>>>> on the experiences of people I personally know, the is likely to just
>>>> as well as the RAV4 for $4k less.Throwing away $4K because it says
>>>> "Toyota" is screwing yourself. Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made
>>>> $5k more for his Tacoma than I paid for my better equipped Frontier.
>>>> Throwing away $5k because it says "Toyota" is screwing yourself.. Not
>>>> even considering anything unless it says "Toyota" on the vehicle is
>>>> screwing yourself.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>
>> I would love to the list of the top selling vehicles in each class. Do
>> you have a link to it?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> jeff
>
> He'll give you a tweaked Ford/GM site, anyway. Or he'll just ignore you
> altogether.
>
> He keeps trying to convince us that we're mindless Toyota groupies, who
> won't even consider another brand. While those types of folks certainly
> exist, I think he believes it represents most of us. I don't know why it
> bothers him that we love our cars/trucks - it has no impact on his life
> whatsoever, unless he has Ford/GM stock, or works for them in some way.
> He ignores those who say they *did* stick with Ford/GM vehicles for many
> years and found the quality lacking. We've been Toyota owners for about
> 20 years, and have always been very happy with the 3 Toyotas we've
> purchased new. What's wrong with sticking with what works?! SHEESH.
>
> If you love Fords, GMs, Chrysler, etc., more power to you - but don't be
> slamming others for their choices.
>
> Natalie
>


From: Jeff on

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Depends on how many trucks the dealership sells in a week. If they sell
> 100 a week they need around a 1000 on hand . If they sell only 10, 80
> will do. A sixty day supply on the ground is ideal, except at intro in
> the fall through balance out in the spring, then a ninety day supply is
> better. Don't for get Ford sells F150s at a rate around six times that of
> the Tundra and Ford has around twice as many dealerships
>
>
> mike
>
>
> "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:7oJGh.582$3i.42(a)trnddc01...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:efqdnTwdnoQVxnbYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d(a)ptd.net...
>>> Can't prove it by me, my local Chevy dealer has two dozen Toyotas of all
>>> types on his lot. Do a search and I believe you will find the 2006
>>> Tundra holds the record for on unsold vehicles LOL
>>>
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>>
>
>> From these reports, you can see that Toyota is selling its new truck
>> pretty fast. It has about 4 or 5 weeks supply. That compares to about 15
>> weeks supply for Fords.
>>
>> The big 3 now have the most unsold inventory as well as the how long the
>> supply will last, i.e., how many days it will take to sell the same
>> number of vehicles as they have in inventory.
>>
>> Jeff

A fifteen-week supply is 2.5 times a six-week supply. Ford has had to shut
down production to get rid of its supply. Part of the reason is that Ford is
also decreasing the number of vehicles it sells to rental fleets.

Considering that Ford and GM have a much bigger supply than Toyota, and that
the supply is far bigger than they want, Ford and GM have too much
inventory. This has been problematic for the big 3 in the last few years, at
least.

Jeff

From: Jeff on

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Do your own homework....son ;)
>
> Gotta go, our plane is about to land in Philly
>
>
> mike
>
>
>
> "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:lFJGh.584$3i.371(a)trnddc01...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:XcednbMmnrzdw3bYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d(a)ptd.net...
>>> That becomes painfully obvious when one compares the Vibe and The Matrix
>>> as well. The proof is in the pudding as they say, when it comes to what
>>> buyers prefer. The Escape is the number one selling small SUV. The
>>> guys in this NG would like to have us believe all Toyotas are better
>>> than any others. Buyers think otherwise. The only Toyotas that are
>>> number one sellers in their class are the Camry and the Prius. I every
>>> other, of the twenty some classes, some other manufacturer is number one
>>> and the majority of number one sellers are domestics.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>>
>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:keEGh.8537$_73.7442(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:45e8ebe9$0$16266$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just how are they screwing themselves?
>>>>
>>>> My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly
>>>> equipped Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she
>>>> just wants the car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based
>>>> on the experiences of people I personally know, the is likely to just
>>>> as well as the RAV4 for $4k less.Throwing away $4K because it says
>>>> "Toyota" is screwing yourself. Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made
>>>> $5k more for his Tacoma than I paid for my better equipped Frontier.
>>>> Throwing away $5k because it says "Toyota" is screwing yourself.. Not
>>>> even considering anything unless it says "Toyota" on the vehicle is
>>>> screwing yourself.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>
>> I would love to the list of the top selling vehicles in each class. Do
>> you have a link to it?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> jeff

Thanks for the kind reply, dad. I have not been able to find the figures.

I really appreciate the way you share your information with others.

How did you get internet access above ground?

Jeff

From: dh on
"Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:LYmdndZ2Nqnp8nbYnZ2dnUVZ_vmqnZ2d(a)ptd.net...
>> Do your own homework....son ;)
>>
>> Gotta go, our plane is about to land in Philly
>>
>> mike
>>
>> "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:lFJGh.584$3i.371(a)trnddc01...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XcednbMmnrzdw3bYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d(a)ptd.net...
>>>> That becomes painfully obvious when one compares the Vibe and The
>>>> Matrix as well. The proof is in the pudding as they say, when it comes
>>>> to what buyers prefer. The Escape is the number one selling small
>>>> SUV. The guys in this NG would like to have us believe all Toyotas are
>>>> better than any others. Buyers think otherwise. The only Toyotas that
>>>> are number one sellers in their class are the Camry and the Prius. I
>>>> every other, of the twenty some classes, some other manufacturer is
>>>> number one and the majority of number one sellers are domestics.
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:keEGh.8537$_73.7442(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45e8ebe9$0$16266$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just how are they screwing themselves?
>>>>>
>>>>> My SO spent at least $4k more for her RAV4 than for a similarly
>>>>> equipped Escape. She doesn't really care about a lot of things, she
>>>>> just wants the car to go. She wouldn't even consider an Escape. Based
>>>>> on the experiences of people I personally know, the is likely to just
>>>>> as well as the RAV4 for $4k less.Throwing away $4K because it says
>>>>> "Toyota" is screwing yourself. Another friend bought a Tacoma. He made
>>>>> $5k more for his Tacoma than I paid for my better equipped Frontier.
>>>>> Throwing away $5k because it says "Toyota" is screwing yourself.. Not
>>>>> even considering anything unless it says "Toyota" on the vehicle is
>>>>> screwing yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>
>>> I would love to the list of the top selling vehicles in each class. Do
>>> you have a link to it?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> jeff
>
> Thanks for the kind reply, dad. I have not been able to find the figures.
>
> I really appreciate the way you share your information with others.
>
> How did you get internet access above ground?
>
> Jeff

"Put up or shut up" is a concept alien to "mike hunt." The only list was in
his head, anyway.



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From: dh on
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Does that mean your think I should get rid of my 1941 as well as my 1964,
> 1971, 1972, and 1983 because the will not last very long? Maybe I should
> sell them. They have from 110K to 300K on the clock and worth at least
> four to ten times what I paid for them ;)
>
> mike

Of course not. The "needs" of a car collector are different. If Ed's "SO"
buys ONE car and keeps it for a good long time and replaces it with ONE car,
that's hardly the behavior of a collector.

As in, don't be a jerk.

> "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
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>> "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Reality check - I just looked to see what's offered for sale around here
>> in Escapes and Ravs. The median asking price for Escapes is $5,000 less
>> than for the Rav ($9K vs $14K).
>>
>>>> I didn't think so... <G>
>>>
>>> I ponited out it is irrelevant to someone who drives a car until it is
>>> dirt.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>
>> Actually, it's not. Needs change and if you've bought a car that
>> depreciates like it was going over a cliff, that limits your options when
>> your needs change.
>>
>> And superior long-term reliability is *really* important to people who
>> drive the car forever. I don't think Ford's there quite yet.



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