From: Scott in Florida on
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:47:50 -0500, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote:

>I'm still waiting for you to come down to Key West so I can get you drunk.
>I'll be here another week or so ;)
>
>
>mike

We tried this last year, remember?

I ended up with a bunch of great pictures and no meeting...LOL

Your Token Honky


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From: Mike Hunter on
If you are directing your comment to me, I have owned over a dozen Toyotas
and Lexus' If Toyota were as good as some of you seem to thing why is not
everybody buying Toyotas? ;)


mike
"Dante" <dante(a)xmission.com> wrote in message
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> Ed White wrote:
>> On Mar 1, 2:35 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...(a)my-deja.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Evil top poster Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Tundra is a second rate truck compared to what GM, Ford and
>>>> Dodge have to offer and for less money.
>>> If the trucks from GM, Ford, and Dodge are superior, why can't be sold
>>> for higher prices than the Tundra?
>>
>> That is a very good question. I spent a lot of time shopping for a new
>> truck last year. I didn't want a full size truck. I wanted someting a
>> little smaller, but bigger than a Ranger. However, I did priced larger
>> trucks. I was shocked when I found I could get an F250 for less than a
>> Tundra. It was ridiculous. I don't understand how Toyota could sell
>> one at all. A fourth rate truck for a first rate price. It was silly.
>> I didn't want the F250, and couldn't stomach the Toyota dealers. I
>> tried to negotiate a price for a Tacoma, but the Toyota dealers were
>> so full of s$%t that I ended up in a Frontier. Tacomas are over
>> priced to begin with, and the local dealers try to add ridiculous doc
>> fees. Yet despite screwing their Customers they are able to sell the
>> trucks. It make me think Toyota buyers are brain dead. If you go
>> merely by specifications, the Tacoma is inferior to the Frontier. If
>> you drive one, it is even more inferior. Yet Toyota charges thousand
>> more. Go figure. Do Toyota buyers even consider anything else?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>
> Do you really think that many people are brain dead? Seriously. Put your
> pride aside and look at the facts. It is not likely that there are that
> many brain dead people out there. This means that for some reason Toyotas
> must be superior. If you've never owned one then I can see your
> confusion.
>
> Dante


From: Dante on
Mike Hunter wrote:
> If you are directing your comment to me, I have owned over a dozen Toyotas
> and Lexus' If Toyota were as good as some of you seem to thing why is not
> everybody buying Toyotas? ;)
>
>
> mike
> "Dante" <dante(a)xmission.com> wrote in message
> news:es7e7p$8mu$1(a)news.xmission.com...
>> Ed White wrote:
>>> On Mar 1, 2:35 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...(a)my-deja.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Evil top poster Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Tundra is a second rate truck compared to what GM, Ford and
>>>>> Dodge have to offer and for less money.
>>>> If the trucks from GM, Ford, and Dodge are superior, why can't be sold
>>>> for higher prices than the Tundra?
>>> That is a very good question. I spent a lot of time shopping for a new
>>> truck last year. I didn't want a full size truck. I wanted someting a
>>> little smaller, but bigger than a Ranger. However, I did priced larger
>>> trucks. I was shocked when I found I could get an F250 for less than a
>>> Tundra. It was ridiculous. I don't understand how Toyota could sell
>>> one at all. A fourth rate truck for a first rate price. It was silly.
>>> I didn't want the F250, and couldn't stomach the Toyota dealers. I
>>> tried to negotiate a price for a Tacoma, but the Toyota dealers were
>>> so full of s$%t that I ended up in a Frontier. Tacomas are over
>>> priced to begin with, and the local dealers try to add ridiculous doc
>>> fees. Yet despite screwing their Customers they are able to sell the
>>> trucks. It make me think Toyota buyers are brain dead. If you go
>>> merely by specifications, the Tacoma is inferior to the Frontier. If
>>> you drive one, it is even more inferior. Yet Toyota charges thousand
>>> more. Go figure. Do Toyota buyers even consider anything else?
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>> Do you really think that many people are brain dead? Seriously. Put your
>> pride aside and look at the facts. It is not likely that there are that
>> many brain dead people out there. This means that for some reason Toyotas
>> must be superior. If you've never owned one then I can see your
>> confusion.
>>
>> Dante
>
>

If they're not that great why did you keep buying them?

Dante
From: dh on
"Ed White" <ce.white3(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 1, 11:19 am, "Jeff" <n...(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The only question I have is why you would have to pay for a new truck if
>> he
>> got his hands on your Frontier.
>
> After a year with the Frontier, I am unimpressed with it "toughness."
> It is a decent ride around truck, but I'd hate to subject it to
> anything rough. The frame is pathetic looking compared even to a
> Ranger. The engine is a great race car engine, but a lousy truck
> engine. The truck rides nicely, but by Father's 8 year old Ranger will
> haul a larger load without bottoming out the springs. The Nissan 4WD
> system works well, but it worried the heck out of me yesterday when it
> refused to shift back to 2WD (I had driven throught a rather
> challenging mud hole).
>
>> I believe in natural consequences. If a child runs into a wall, he soon
>> learns that it hurts and stops running into the wall.
>
> How about one that breaksa bone when he runs into the walll...do you
> just let them tough it out?
>
>> The natural consequence of being rough with a Vue is that he pays for the
>> repairs, not you. He will learn not to be rough with vehicles or learn to
>> get a 2nd job.
>
> I have one goal for my Son - get him out of high school and into
> college. I put him to work on my farm, but anything that interferes
> with school is forbidden. My son has to get to school. I have three
> choices - take him and pick him up daily, pay someone to do it, or let
> him drive. The last option was the cheapest. If I said he had to pay
> for the repairs to the Vue, he wouldn't be able to, so I'd end up
> carrying him to school and paying for the Vue. He actually paid for
> the Firebird out of his own savings - it was so horrible he wiped his
> savings out. Getting the Mustang has worked out really well. It was
> dirt cheap, and has been bullet proof. The amount I was spending on
> gas has even gone down. It is an unbelieveable bargin.
>
> Ed

Our Toyotas and Volvos proved to be tougher than the teens. When that
Mustang dies, perhaps you should find him a nice Corolla or 240.



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From: dh on
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv4kGXwe4mE&NR
>
>
> I don't know why this guy hates Toyota so much?!?!
>
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I don't know about why - or whether - he hates Toyotas but, whoever he is,
he surely does think he's Awfully Important.

Are we looking at "mike hunt?"

Toyota's making lots of money; they are heavily roboticized and automated
and they do not lack for capital. Their people are good. They get top
engineers from the best Japanese universities (and American, now, too). If
they built the frame with bolted cross-members instead of using their
robotic welders then I think that rather than blindly criticizing it, I'd be
asking myself why they did that and what the advantage is.



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