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From: C. E. White on 7 Mar 2007 21:04 "Wickeddoll�" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eskb04.3pg.1(a)news.evilcabal.org... > I knew you weren't pretending to be someone else, just wondered why you > didn't have the same alias on both puters. > > I'm "Wickeddoll" on both my work and home puters. I am cewhite on all the computers I regularly use that have a newsreader. When I use Google to post I am Ed White. I don't even rember why it got split like this. Anyhow, I am cewhite and ed white.... Ed
From: dh on 8 Mar 2007 00:07 "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:7dGHh.14717$zh.2532(a)trnddc08... > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:48ydnZsJjbjJtHLYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d(a)ptd.net... >> The joint venture was with the others joining Aisin, before Toyota bought >> the company, not at Toyota. >> >> A non Japanese can not own a Japanese company or eve have a member of the >> board of a Japanese company no matter how muck of a percentage of their >> ownership. Search the efforts of a fellow named Boon Pickens in the >> eighties for the particulars. >> >> They don't tell you they build the six speed tranny that was first used >> in the FWD 2006 Ford 500/ Montigo, Fusion/Melon.and Zephyr. It is the >> exact SAME tranny that is used in the 2007 versions as well as the Camry, >> Lexus V6, Edge and the MKZ and MKX. Lincolns. ;) >> >> mike >> >> "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:JrpHh.1877$3i.253(a)trnddc01... >>> >>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message >>> news:ZPudnYY_l4LdM3DYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >>>> The hybrid technology was developed in a joint venture with Volvo >>>> (Ford,) Toyota, Aisin and another Japanese auto company. There are all >>>> cross licensed to use that technology. Toyota eventually bought the >>>> company. Non Japanese can not 'own' a Japanese company. >>>> >>>> mike >>>> >>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message >> >>>>> You are right about Toyota having a long term ownership interest in >>>>> Aisin-Warner (or as it is now know Aisin AW). However, I think you are >>>>> wrong about Toyota developing the hybrid technology in-house. I can >>>>> remember articles on Volvo working with Aisin more than 15 years ago. >>>>> Probably the "Toyota" hybrid technology is a accumulation of >>>>> technology from many sources. Still Aisin AW builds the main >>>>> components for both Toyota and Ford, but they only acknowledge >>>>> building them for Ford. They never mention that they also build hybrid >>>>> components for Toyota. For that matter, you'd never know they built >>>>> Toyota automatic transmissions either. >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>> >>> American companies can own a portion of a Japanese company. GM use to >>> own 49% of Isuzu. >> >>> What the limit of foriegn ownership is, I don't know. >>> >>> Jeff > > The directors of Mazda include John Park (Prepresentative Directory and > Vice Chairman of the Board), Representative Director David Friedman > (managing Executive Officer and CFO, too), and Director Daniel Morris (he > is also in charge of Marketing). Those are not Japanese names. And > Executive VP is also Robert Grazaino, another non-Japanese name. > > Most of the directors and executive offices do have Japanese names, > however. > > I did take your advice to look up Boon Pickens. I found this article where > they talk about foreign investors taking over Japanese companies: > http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_06/b3869151_mz035.htm > > I guess foreign investors can takeover Japanese companies. But the > environment in Japan prevents that from happening. > > Jeff Looks like we're going to defeat Japane, economically, by exporting Wall Street Business practices to the Nikkei. That should end all their long-range plans. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Wickeddoll� on 8 Mar 2007 07:50
"dh" <... > "Jeff" ... >> "Mike Hunter" ... >>> The joint venture was with the others joining Aisin, before Toyota >>> bought >>> the company, not at Toyota. >>> >>> A non Japanese can not own a Japanese company or eve have a member of >>> the >>> board of a Japanese company no matter how muck of a percentage of their >>> ownership. Search the efforts of a fellow named Boon Pickens in the >>> eighties for the particulars. >>> >>> They don't tell you they build the six speed tranny that was first used >>> in the FWD 2006 Ford 500/ Montigo, Fusion/Melon.and Zephyr. It is the >>> exact SAME tranny that is used in the 2007 versions as well as the >>> Camry, >>> Lexus V6, Edge and the MKZ and MKX. Lincolns. ;) >>> >>> mike >>> >>> "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>> news:JrpHh.1877$3i.253(a)trnddc01... >>>> >>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message >>>> news:ZPudnYY_l4LdM3DYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >>>>> The hybrid technology was developed in a joint venture with Volvo >>>>> (Ford,) Toyota, Aisin and another Japanese auto company. There are >>>>> all >>>>> cross licensed to use that technology. Toyota eventually bought the >>>>> company. Non Japanese can not 'own' a Japanese company. >>>>> >>>>> mike >>>>> >>>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message >>> >>>>>> You are right about Toyota having a long term ownership interest in >>>>>> Aisin-Warner (or as it is now know Aisin AW). However, I think you >>>>>> are >>>>>> wrong about Toyota developing the hybrid technology in-house. I can >>>>>> remember articles on Volvo working with Aisin more than 15 years ago. >>>>>> Probably the "Toyota" hybrid technology is a accumulation of >>>>>> technology from many sources. Still Aisin AW builds the main >>>>>> components for both Toyota and Ford, but they only acknowledge >>>>>> building them for Ford. They never mention that they also build >>>>>> hybrid >>>>>> components for Toyota. For that matter, you'd never know they built >>>>>> Toyota automatic transmissions either. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>> >>>> American companies can own a portion of a Japanese company. GM use to >>>> own 49% of Isuzu. >>> >>>> What the limit of foriegn ownership is, I don't know. >>>> >>>> Jeff >> >> The directors of Mazda include John Park (Prepresentative Directory and >> Vice Chairman of the Board), Representative Director David Friedman >> (managing Executive Officer and CFO, too), and Director Daniel Morris (he >> is also in charge of Marketing). Those are not Japanese names. And >> Executive VP is also Robert Grazaino, another non-Japanese name. >> >> Most of the directors and executive offices do have Japanese names, >> however. >> >> I did take your advice to look up Boon Pickens. I found this article >> where >> they talk about foreign investors taking over Japanese companies: >> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_06/b3869151_mz035.htm >> >> I guess foreign investors can takeover Japanese companies. But the >> environment in Japan prevents that from happening. >> >> Jeff > > Looks like we're going to defeat Japane, economically, by exporting Wall > Street Business practices to the Nikkei. That should end all their > long-range plans. LOL you're on a roll. Natalie |