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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jul 2010 21:27 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:06:56 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message > news:Xns9DC298F097D31hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:AxI3o.32000 >> $OU6.19601(a)newsfe20.iad: >> >>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9DC29653A85E3hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>>> news:tqI3o.31999$OU6.31521(a)newsfe20.iad: >>>> >>>>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>>>> news:Xns9DC294CA7ED45hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>>>>> news:2bI3o.31998$OU6.10260(a)newsfe20.iad: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Xns9DC28F65A53D9hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FWIW, I don't like the man's politics, but don't have a problem >>>>>>>>> with what he did, it's legal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I really don't either, but I don't like him telling everyone else >>>>>>>> to pay all their taxes and not try to dodge them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did Kerry *actually* preach about that, or are you just getting >>>>>>> swept along in the OP's "evidence"? Kerry may have preached about >>>>>>> it, or he may not have preached about it. The OP has yet to show >> any >>>>>>> evidence, but he swears he has very clear memories of the >> preaching. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe, the man is a member of the tax and spend party. The >> republicans >>>>>> are the spend party. Do you think that Kerry voted for programs >> that >>>>>> were to be covered by taxes thinking that most people would not pay >>>>>> them? As to whether he physically stood on a soap box and preached >>>>>> that, I don't think so. He did, however, plan on everyone doing it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, that aside, I don't have a problem with what he did. I would >>>>>> have done the same, had I the money to buy the yacht. However, I am >>>>>> not in Congress passing legislation that requires everyone to pay >>>>>> their taxes. I am not like Charlie Rangel who fails to claim rental >>>>>> monies, or Timothy Geightner who couldn't understand Turbotax but >>>>>> leads the Treasury. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So, in answer to my question about preaching, you said NO. Thank you >>>>> very much. >>>> >>>> I do what I can to be as honest as I can. >>>> >>>>> Next question: "Read my lips - NO NEW TAXES!" Did you also have a >>>>> problem with the person who uttered those words when his utterance >>>>> turned out to be false? >>>> >>>> Yep, and I had problems with his son, too. >>> >>> >>> Now, where's the transcript or video in which we can see Kerry >> literally >>> telling us that we should all pay our taxes? Your inferences are of no >>> value. >> >> I thought we already covered that or is your memory that short? > > > Passing legislation is not the same as preaching. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This has to go down in Usenet history aws the dumbest thing you have ever said.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jul 2010 21:28 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:26:02 -0500, RD Sandman wrote: > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in > news:jtq3o.41787$cO.8264(a)newsfe09.iad: > >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about >>>>>>> his new >>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>> event at >>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>> summer home >>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to >>>>>>> pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>> >>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>>> people they >>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>> Bush? >>>>> >>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>> >>>> >>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their >>>> fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>> low, or >>>> anything else. >>>> >>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> Yes? >>> >>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>> this going? >> >> >> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. >> You meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >> >> Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band >> somehow hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor >> festivals and corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA >> equipment. You find a dealer across the state line where sales tax >> (hypothetically speaking) is 3% lower than where you live and the base >> price is identical to the dealer in your state. It's a 15 minute drive >> to save $300.00. >> >> I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying >> more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. > > Not quite, he isn't getting up on a podium and telling everyone else to > pay their taxes. Thanks. You understood that. Joe has trouble with things like this...
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jul 2010 21:30 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:56:00 -0500, CharlesGrozny wrote: > > And I don't know about Mass, but in Illinois, they have started checking to > see if you filled out your ST-55 every year now. You are supposed to > declare stuff you bought out of state and pay state sales tax on it. Oh yeah, they've had this for quite a while now. And we ALL 'fess up at the end of the year, just like we're suppose to....yup, yup, yup... They also have a section for income made from illegal means. Sure, the people that do that are bound to fill that section out!
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jul 2010 21:32 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:45:41 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message > news:Xns9DC26A25925EBhopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >> news:jtq3o.41787$cO.8264(a)newsfe09.iad: >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about >>>>>>>> his new >>>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>>> event at >>>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>>> summer home >>>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to >>>>>>>> pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>>>> people they >>>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>>> Bush? >>>>>> >>>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their >>>>> fair share of taxes, right? >>>>> >>>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>>> low, or >>>>> anything else. >>>>> >>>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>>> >>>>> Yes? >>>> >>>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>>> this going? >>> >>> >>> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. >>> You meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >>> >>> Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band >>> somehow hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor >>> festivals and corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA >>> equipment. You find a dealer across the state line where sales tax >>> (hypothetically speaking) is 3% lower than where you live and the base >>> price is identical to the dealer in your state. It's a 15 minute drive >>> to save $300.00. >>> >>> I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying >>> more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. >> >> Not quite, he isn't getting up on a podium and telling everyone else to >> pay their taxes. >> > > > This is the Hack's podium, and by saying that Kerry should not be an > exception, he made it clear that EVERYONE should pay their taxes. I made no such inference. The only thing I alluded to was that during his campaign Kerry said something like "everyone should be a good citizen and pay their taxes", and then tried to screw the state out of their taxes from him. What do they call it? Limosine Liberalism?
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jul 2010 21:34
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:07:26 -0500, RD Sandman wrote: > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:9XE3o.31978 > $OU6.12533(a)newsfe20.iad: > >> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >> news:Xns9DC26A25925EBhopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>> news:jtq3o.41787$cO.8264(a)newsfe09.iad: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday > about >>>>>>>>> his new >>>>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking > it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>>>> event at >>>>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>>>> summer home >>>>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to >>>>>>>>> pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>>>>> people they >>>>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>>>> Bush? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay > their >>>>>> fair share of taxes, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>>>> low, or >>>>>> anything else. >>>>>> >>>>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes? >>>>> >>>>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>>>> this going? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. >>>> You meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >>>> >>>> Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band >>>> somehow hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor >>>> festivals and corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA >>>> equipment. You find a dealer across the state line where sales tax >>>> (hypothetically speaking) is 3% lower than where you live and the > base >>>> price is identical to the dealer in your state. It's a 15 minute > drive >>>> to save $300.00. >>>> >>>> I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying >>>> more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. >>> >>> Not quite, he isn't getting up on a podium and telling everyone else > to >>> pay their taxes. >>> >> >> >> This is the Hack's podium, and by saying that Kerry should not be an >> exception, he made it clear that EVERYONE should pay their taxes. > > Everyone should, but please be specific on just where he made that clear. > It looks to me as if he said, "Fine and well, if you're not in the > practice of telling other people they have to pay their taxes." > > Then you said, "You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of > taxes, right? Yes?" > > He replied, "<Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and > where is this going?" > > You then prattled on, "...... I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 > minute drive to avoid paying more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're > just like Kerry." > > Hmmmm, looks like you are wrong, Joe. He didn't make that clear. You > tried to, but he didn't. > > You may, however, take all the screens you need to prove me wrong in what > I just posted. JSB gets taken down by the "newbie". I love it. You, my friend, have just opened a 10,492 post can of worms! ;) |