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From: JoeSpareBedroom on 28 Jul 2010 12:54 "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote in message news:4C505C91.6030600(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com... > On 7/28/2010 8:26 AM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:4c4f87d0$0$74748$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:06:56 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> >>>> Passing legislation is not the same as preaching. >>> >>> ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>> This has to go down in Usenet history aws the dumbest thing you have >>> ever >>> said. >> >> >> What if a politician voted YES on a bill which ***REDUCED*** taxes. Is >> that >> also equivalent to preaching? >> >> > Has that ever happened in your life time????????? Aren't Bush's tax cuts coming up for discussion? Somebody voted on them before they were official. Or did they come out of a box of cereal?
From: Beam Me Up Scotty on 28 Jul 2010 13:29 On 7/28/2010 12:54 PM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote in > message news:4C505C91.6030600(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com... >> On 7/28/2010 8:26 AM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:4c4f87d0$0$74748$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:06:56 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>>> Passing legislation is not the same as preaching. >>>> >>>> ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>> >>>> This has to go down in Usenet history aws the dumbest thing you have >>>> ever >>>> said. >>> >>> >>> What if a politician voted YES on a bill which ***REDUCED*** taxes. Is >>> that >>> also equivalent to preaching? >>> >>> >> Has that ever happened in your life time????????? > > > Aren't Bush's tax cuts coming up for discussion? Somebody voted on them > before they were official. Or did they come out of a box of cereal? http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p510.pdf That shifted taxes and it was temporary.... funny that you compared it to a box of cereal, that is an apt analogy, they lowered the price for a few years and raised the price of the other types of cereal under that brand(Federal). Meanwhile they made up the the lost income and now the price will go back to it's original amount and the other cereal is still at a higher cost.... raise One, then raise the other, then back to raise the one and then back to the other? It was a shell game and taxes were shifted and not reduced. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p510.pdf --
From: Jeff Strickland on 28 Jul 2010 14:02 "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote in message news:4C5068E4.9030006(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com... > On 7/28/2010 12:54 PM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote >> in >> message news:4C505C91.6030600(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com... >>> On 7/28/2010 8:26 AM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4f87d0$0$74748$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:06:56 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Passing legislation is not the same as preaching. >>>>> >>>>> ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>>> >>>>> This has to go down in Usenet history aws the dumbest thing you have >>>>> ever >>>>> said. >>>> >>>> >>>> What if a politician voted YES on a bill which ***REDUCED*** taxes. Is >>>> that >>>> also equivalent to preaching? >>>> >>>> >>> Has that ever happened in your life time????????? >> >> >> Aren't Bush's tax cuts coming up for discussion? Somebody voted on them >> before they were official. Or did they come out of a box of cereal? >> http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p510.pdf > > > That shifted taxes and it was temporary.... funny that you compared it > to a box of cereal, that is an apt analogy, they lowered the price for a > few years and raised the price of the other types of cereal under that > brand(Federal). Meanwhile they made up the the lost income and now the > price will go back to it's original amount and the other cereal is still > at a higher cost.... raise One, then raise the other, then back to > raise the one and then back to the other? > > > It was a shell game and taxes were shifted and not reduced. > > > http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p510.pdf > > > -- You said that wrong. It's raise one, cut the other, then leave the raised one raised and raise the cut one. Of course, we are talking about Washington, and there's no reason they won't raise both and say it's a cut because they wanted to raise them more but didn't. Maybe you said the same thing ...
From: RD Sandman on 28 Jul 2010 14:40 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:%LI3o.32002 $OU6.7478(a)newsfe20.iad: > "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message > news:Xns9DC298F097D31hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:AxI3o.32000 >> $OU6.19601(a)newsfe20.iad: >> >>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9DC29653A85E3hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>>> news:tqI3o.31999$OU6.31521(a)newsfe20.iad: >>>> >>>>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>>>> news:Xns9DC294CA7ED45hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>>>>> news:2bI3o.31998$OU6.10260(a)newsfe20.iad: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Xns9DC28F65A53D9hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FWIW, I don't like the man's politics, but don't have a problem >>>>>>>>> with what he did, it's legal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I really don't either, but I don't like him telling everyone else >>>>>>>> to pay all their taxes and not try to dodge them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did Kerry *actually* preach about that, or are you just getting >>>>>>> swept along in the OP's "evidence"? Kerry may have preached about >>>>>>> it, or he may not have preached about it. The OP has yet to show >> any >>>>>>> evidence, but he swears he has very clear memories of the >> preaching. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe, the man is a member of the tax and spend party. The >> republicans >>>>>> are the spend party. Do you think that Kerry voted for programs >> that >>>>>> were to be covered by taxes thinking that most people would not pay >>>>>> them? As to whether he physically stood on a soap box and preached >>>>>> that, I don't think so. He did, however, plan on everyone doing it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, that aside, I don't have a problem with what he did. I would >>>>>> have done the same, had I the money to buy the yacht. However, I am >>>>>> not in Congress passing legislation that requires everyone to pay >>>>>> their taxes. I am not like Charlie Rangel who fails to claim rental >>>>>> monies, or Timothy Geightner who couldn't understand Turbotax but >>>>>> leads the Treasury. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So, in answer to my question about preaching, you said NO. Thank you >>>>> very much. >>>> >>>> I do what I can to be as honest as I can. >>>> >>>>> Next question: "Read my lips - NO NEW TAXES!" Did you also have a >>>>> problem with the person who uttered those words when his utterance >>>>> turned out to be false? >>>> >>>> Yep, and I had problems with his son, too. >>> >>> >>> Now, where's the transcript or video in which we can see Kerry >> literally >>> telling us that we should all pay our taxes? Your inferences are of no >>> value. >> >> I thought we already covered that or is your memory that short? > > > Passing legislation is not the same as preaching. Who made the claim that it was? -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) The three stages of our economy....... Recession - You neighbor loses his job... Depression - You lose your job... Recovery - Obama loses his....
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 28 Jul 2010 14:42
"RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message news:Xns9DC376BE65C07hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:%LI3o.32002 > $OU6.7478(a)newsfe20.iad: > >> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >> news:Xns9DC298F097D31hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in > news:AxI3o.32000 >>> $OU6.19601(a)newsfe20.iad: >>> >>>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>>> news:Xns9DC29653A85E3hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>>>> news:tqI3o.31999$OU6.31521(a)newsfe20.iad: >>>>> >>>>>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Xns9DC294CA7ED45hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>>>>>> news:2bI3o.31998$OU6.10260(a)newsfe20.iad: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Xns9DC28F65A53D9hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I don't like the man's politics, but don't have a problem >>>>>>>>>> with what he did, it's legal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I really don't either, but I don't like him telling everyone > else >>>>>>>>> to pay all their taxes and not try to dodge them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did Kerry *actually* preach about that, or are you just getting >>>>>>>> swept along in the OP's "evidence"? Kerry may have preached about >>>>>>>> it, or he may not have preached about it. The OP has yet to show >>> any >>>>>>>> evidence, but he swears he has very clear memories of the >>> preaching. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe, the man is a member of the tax and spend party. The >>> republicans >>>>>>> are the spend party. Do you think that Kerry voted for programs >>> that >>>>>>> were to be covered by taxes thinking that most people would not > pay >>>>>>> them? As to whether he physically stood on a soap box and > preached >>>>>>> that, I don't think so. He did, however, plan on everyone doing > it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, that aside, I don't have a problem with what he did. I would >>>>>>> have done the same, had I the money to buy the yacht. However, I > am >>>>>>> not in Congress passing legislation that requires everyone to pay >>>>>>> their taxes. I am not like Charlie Rangel who fails to claim > rental >>>>>>> monies, or Timothy Geightner who couldn't understand Turbotax but >>>>>>> leads the Treasury. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So, in answer to my question about preaching, you said NO. Thank > you >>>>>> very much. >>>>> >>>>> I do what I can to be as honest as I can. >>>>> >>>>>> Next question: "Read my lips - NO NEW TAXES!" Did you also have a >>>>>> problem with the person who uttered those words when his utterance >>>>>> turned out to be false? >>>>> >>>>> Yep, and I had problems with his son, too. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now, where's the transcript or video in which we can see Kerry >>> literally >>>> telling us that we should all pay our taxes? Your inferences are of > no >>>> value. >>> >>> I thought we already covered that or is your memory that short? >> >> >> Passing legislation is not the same as preaching. > > Who made the claim that it was? A participant in this discussion made the claim that it was. "JohnJohnsn" <TopCop1988(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:7a51e11e-a6bf-487c-a8d7-1376cfcef2dc(a)q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > What if a politician voted YES on a bill which ***REDUCED*** taxes. > Is that also equivalent to preaching? Yes. |