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From: CharlesGrozny on 27 Jul 2010 18:22 "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message news:Xns9DC28F22AE72Fhopewell(a)216.196.97.130... > "CharlesGrozny" <n5hsr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in > news:haCdnU1VjLwsttLRnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > >> >> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >> news:Xns9DC26A25925EBhopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>> news:jtq3o.41787$cO.8264(a)newsfe09.iad: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday >>>>>>>>> about his new >>>>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>>>> event at >>>>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>>>> summer home >>>>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have >>>>>>>>> to pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>>>>> people they >>>>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>>>> Bush? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay >>>>>> their fair share of taxes, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too >>>>>> high, low, or >>>>>> anything else. >>>>>> >>>>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, >>>>>> right? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes? >>>>> >>>>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>>>> this going? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. >>>> You meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >>>> >>>> Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band >>>> somehow hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor >>>> festivals and corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA >>>> equipment. You find a dealer across the state line where sales tax >>>> (hypothetically speaking) is 3% lower than where you live and the >>>> base price is identical to the dealer in your state. It's a 15 >>>> minute drive to save $300.00. >>>> >>>> I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying >>>> more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. >>> >>> Not quite, he isn't getting up on a podium and telling everyone else >>> to pay their taxes. >>> >> >> And I don't know about Mass, > > I don't either. I am in Arizona. > >> ..... but in Illinois, they have started >> checking to see if you filled out your ST-55 every year now. > > I assume that is a state sales tax form. > Yes, IL ST-55 It's part of the IL-1040 booklet now. > You are >> supposed to declare stuff you bought out of state and pay state sales >> tax on it. > > Even if you paid taxes at the point of origin? YES. Supposedly you are supposed to pay the difference from what you paid at the point of origin and Illinois rate where you live (I'm at 10.00 percent here in CROOK County.) Illinois sales tax is always higher than the other guys. Wis is 5.5 percent, Ind is 5 percent, for instance. > > Also, it is now IMPOSSIBLE to buy a car if you live in >> CROOK County without paying CROOK County taxes on it. Even the >> Indiana and Wisconsin dealers have the paperwork now. >> And yes, if they see you're an Illinois Address, they're supposed to file an RUT-25 with Illinois, too. >> The state is so desperate that it's checking declarations on US custom >> forms for stuff your bringing into the country and sending you a tax >> bill for that. >> >> In theory, you're even supposed to declare the gas and cigarettes you >> buy out of state. Yeah, like anyone ever really does that. That's >> where Nobama the Bungler gets his ideas about taxes from is from >> Illinois' crazy system. > > Daley has to have some way to pay for his side of the lawsuits on his gun > control programs. > > And people wonder why I don't like Nobama or anybody in his crooked administration? > -- > Sleep well tonight, > > RD (The Sandman) > > The three stages of our economy....... > > Recession - You neighbor loses his job... > > Depression - You lose your job... > > Recovery - Obama loses his.... And Quinn and Stroger and Daley. Todd Stroger is the one that raised sales tax in CROOK County to the highest level of any county in the USSA. Friend of Nobama, BTW. Charles Grozny.
From: Beam Me Up Scotty on 27 Jul 2010 19:16 On 7/27/2010 5:51 PM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message > news:Xns9DC29653A85E3hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >> news:tqI3o.31999$OU6.31521(a)newsfe20.iad: >> >>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9DC294CA7ED45hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>>> news:2bI3o.31998$OU6.10260(a)newsfe20.iad: >>>> >>>>> "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message >>>>> news:Xns9DC28F65A53D9hopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >>>>> >>>>>>> FWIW, I don't like the man's politics, but don't have a problem >>>>>>> with what he did, it's legal. >>>>>> >>>>>> I really don't either, but I don't like him telling everyone else >>>>>> to pay all their taxes and not try to dodge them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Did Kerry *actually* preach about that, or are you just getting >>>>> swept along in the OP's "evidence"? Kerry may have preached about >>>>> it, or he may not have preached about it. The OP has yet to show any >>>>> evidence, but he swears he has very clear memories of the preaching. >>>> >>>> Joe, the man is a member of the tax and spend party. The republicans >>>> are the spend party. Do you think that Kerry voted for programs that >>>> were to be covered by taxes thinking that most people would not pay >>>> them? As to whether he physically stood on a soap box and preached >>>> that, I don't think so. He did, however, plan on everyone doing it. >>>> >>>> Now, that aside, I don't have a problem with what he did. I would >>>> have done the same, had I the money to buy the yacht. However, I am >>>> not in Congress passing legislation that requires everyone to pay >>>> their taxes. I am not like Charlie Rangel who fails to claim rental >>>> monies, or Timothy Geightner who couldn't understand Turbotax but >>>> leads the Treasury. >>> >>> >>> So, in answer to my question about preaching, you said NO. Thank you >>> very much. >> >> I do what I can to be as honest as I can. >> >>> Next question: "Read my lips - NO NEW TAXES!" Did you also have a >>> problem with the person who uttered those words when his utterance >>> turned out to be false? >> >> Yep, and I had problems with his son, too. > > > Now, where's the transcript or video in which we can see Kerry literally > telling us that we should all pay our taxes? Your inferences are of no > value. What was Kerry going to do with his $500,000 tax cut? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4DnELNJbk0 Kerry lying about spending taxes..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qko8thKJPy0 Kerry also admits that subprime loans was the problem and we all know it was the Democrats that forced subprime loans as minority loans http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/185/126/ The man who won't pay the tax in his State and put his boat in RI to keep 500,000 from paying for the science and monitoring. --
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jul 2010 21:23 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:07:28 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:4c4ee3f0$0$74748$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:13:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:4c4e4e8d$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:58:46 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> But if you couldn't get the price down, you would ABSOLUTELY drive >>>>>>> across >>>>>>> state lines to save the tax money. I know you would. You know you >>>>>>> would. >>>>>>> You're a lousy dancer. Stop trying. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah. But I also never tell anyone they need to pay their taxes, >>>>>> either. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a way, you did. You danced around saying that you believed everyone >>>>> needed to pay their fair share >>>> >>>> Better check what Kerry said when he was running for Pres. He's the one >>>> who said it, not me. I don't give a flying leap whether he pays it or >>>> not. >>>> That doesn't make me the hypocrite. >>> >>> >>> What did he say about this subject, EXACTLY? You sound very sure of it, >>> so >>> I assume you have a link to a source. Without a source, it's unlikely you >>> have an accurate memory of what he said. >> >> I have a real good memory of what he said, since Howie Carr from WRKO >> brought it up almost every day for about 3 months. > > > What did he say? This answer is not allowed: "He said everyone should pay > their taxes." > > It MUST be at least a bit more complex than that. Google is your friend.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jul 2010 21:24 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:03:31 -0700, Bill Smith wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:17:25 -0400, "JoeSpareBedroom" > <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote: > >>"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about his >>>>>>> new >>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an event >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's summer >>>>>>> home >>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying nearly >>>>>>> $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to pay a >>>>>>> $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>> >>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other people >>>>> they >>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against Bush? >>>>> >>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>> >>>> >>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their fair >>>> share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, low, >>>> or >>>> anything else. >>>> >>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> Yes? >>> >>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is this >>> going? >> >> >>"Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. You >>meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >> >>Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band somehow >>hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor festivals and >>corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA equipment. You find a >>dealer across the state line where sales tax (hypothetically speaking) is 3% >>lower than where you live and the base price is identical to the dealer in >>your state. It's a 15 minute drive to save $300.00. >> >>I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying more >>tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. >> > > But when you bring your PA equipment back with you, you'd have to pay > the remaining tax anyway, you'd probably never get caught, but it's > still required. Try another example. > > FWIW, I don't like the man's politics, but don't have a problem with > what he did, it's legal. > > Bill Smith Bottom line, yes it is. Scurrilous, but legal...
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Jul 2010 21:25
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:27:30 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> I really don't either, but I don't like him telling everyone else to pay >> all their taxes and not try to dodge them. > > > Did Kerry *actually* preach about that You appear to be the only one that missed it. Do they let you vote? |