From: john on
"Ford executives said today that the 2011 Explorer will get 30% better
fuel efficiency than the outgoing model with a turbocharged EcoBoost
engine and 25% better fuel economy with a standard V6 engine."

Photo gallery:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=C4&Dato=20100726&Kategori=BUSINESS&Lopenr=7260801&Ref=PH

Articles:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sc-biz-0727-ford-explorer-unveiling-20100726,0,3621799.story

http://www.freep.com/article/20100726/BUSINESS01/100726029/1210/2011-Explorer-to-drive-momentum-Ford-says

From: Spanky de Monkey on
What happened to Toyota? Do you now realize that you can never afford to
purchase a TOYOTA?



From: hls on

"Spanky de Monkey" <spanky(a)deMonkey.org> wrote in message
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> What happened to Toyota? Do you now realize that you can never afford to
> purchase a TOYOTA?

After buying two of them new, I dont see how I ever afforded not to buy
Toyota.

From: C. E. White on

"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>
> "Spanky de Monkey" <spanky(a)deMonkey.org> wrote in message
> news:4c4ef3b4(a)news.x-privat.org...
>> What happened to Toyota? Do you now realize that you can never afford to
>> purchase a TOYOTA?
>
> After buying two of them new, I dont see how I ever afforded not to buy
> Toyota.

I don't think you can directly relate vehicle ownership cost to reliability.
Probably the cheapest vehicle in terms of cost per mile i ever owned was one
of the least reliable POS I ever owned - a 1981 Plymouth Reliant. It got
good gas mileage, everything that failed was covered by the warranty, and
when I dumped it after 11 months, the tade in was almost the same as the
original purchase price (remember this was 1980/81 when prices increased
over 10% in less than a year). Heck even the constantly broken British cars
I owned were cheap to own since I drove them for a couple of years and sold
them for almost (or in two cases) more than I bought them for. The parts
were cheap, and my spare time was free.

Ed


From: hls on

"C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:i2n95m$vq0
>
> I don't think you can directly relate vehicle ownership cost to
> reliability. Probably the cheapest vehicle in terms of cost per mile i
> ever owned was one of the least reliable POS I ever owned - a 1981
> Plymouth Reliant. It got good gas mileage, everything that failed was
> covered by the warranty, and when I dumped it after 11 months, the tade in
> was almost the same as the original purchase price (remember this was
> 1980/81 when prices increased over 10% in less than a year). Heck even the
> constantly broken British cars I owned were cheap to own since I drove
> them for a couple of years and sold them for almost (or in two cases) more
> than I bought them for. The parts were cheap, and my spare time was free.
>
> Ed
>

When you have a few that are rather unreliable, it skews the equation, in my
mind.

If you want cheap transportation, a billion Chinese cant be wrong.

I always wanted a Mercedes gullwing, or a Ferrari.. Thanks be to God
that I was never afflicted by one of them.