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From: RD Sandman on 27 Jul 2010 14:07 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:9XE3o.31978 $OU6.12533(a)newsfe20.iad: > "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message > news:Xns9DC26A25925EBhopewell(a)216.196.97.130... >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >> news:jtq3o.41787$cO.8264(a)newsfe09.iad: >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about >>>>>>>> his new >>>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>>> event at >>>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>>> summer home >>>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to >>>>>>>> pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>>>> people they >>>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>>> Bush? >>>>>> >>>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their >>>>> fair share of taxes, right? >>>>> >>>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>>> low, or >>>>> anything else. >>>>> >>>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>>> >>>>> Yes? >>>> >>>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>>> this going? >>> >>> >>> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. >>> You meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >>> >>> Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band >>> somehow hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor >>> festivals and corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA >>> equipment. You find a dealer across the state line where sales tax >>> (hypothetically speaking) is 3% lower than where you live and the base >>> price is identical to the dealer in your state. It's a 15 minute drive >>> to save $300.00. >>> >>> I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying >>> more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. >> >> Not quite, he isn't getting up on a podium and telling everyone else to >> pay their taxes. >> > > > This is the Hack's podium, and by saying that Kerry should not be an > exception, he made it clear that EVERYONE should pay their taxes. Everyone should, but please be specific on just where he made that clear. It looks to me as if he said, "Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other people they have to pay their taxes." Then you said, "You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? Yes?" He replied, "<Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is this going?" You then prattled on, "...... I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry." Hmmmm, looks like you are wrong, Joe. He didn't make that clear. You tried to, but he didn't. You may, however, take all the screens you need to prove me wrong in what I just posted. -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) The three stages of our economy....... Recession - You neighbor loses his job... Depression - You lose your job... Recovery - Obama loses his....
From: CharlesGrozny on 27 Jul 2010 14:56 "RD Sandman" <rdsandman(a)comcast[remove].net> wrote in message news:Xns9DC26A25925EBhopewell(a)216.196.97.130... > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in > news:jtq3o.41787$cO.8264(a)newsfe09.iad: > >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about >>>>>>> his new >>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>> event at >>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>> summer home >>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to >>>>>>> pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>> >>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>>> people they >>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>> Bush? >>>>> >>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>> >>>> >>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their >>>> fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>> low, or >>>> anything else. >>>> >>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> Yes? >>> >>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>> this going? >> >> >> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. >> You meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >> >> Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band >> somehow hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor >> festivals and corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA >> equipment. You find a dealer across the state line where sales tax >> (hypothetically speaking) is 3% lower than where you live and the base >> price is identical to the dealer in your state. It's a 15 minute drive >> to save $300.00. >> >> I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying >> more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. > > Not quite, he isn't getting up on a podium and telling everyone else to > pay their taxes. > > > -- > Sleep well tonight, > > RD (The Sandman) > > The three stages of our economy....... > > Recession - You neighbor loses his job... > > Depression - You lose your job... > > Recovery - Obama loses his.... And I don't know about Mass, but in Illinois, they have started checking to see if you filled out your ST-55 every year now. You are supposed to declare stuff you bought out of state and pay state sales tax on it. Also, it is now IMPOSSIBLE to buy a car if you live in CROOK County without paying CROOK County taxes on it. Even the Indiana and Wisconsin dealers have the paperwork now. The state is so desperate that it's checking declarations on US custom forms for stuff your bringing into the country and sending you a tax bill for that. In theory, you're even supposed to declare the gas and cigarettes you buy out of state. Yeah, like anyone ever really does that. That's where Nobama the Bungler gets his ideas about taxes from is from Illinois' crazy system. Charles Grozny
From: Bill Smith on 27 Jul 2010 15:03 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:17:25 -0400, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote: >"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>> people...) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>> >>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about his >>>>>> new >>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>> >>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an event >>>>>> at >>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>> >>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's summer >>>>>> home >>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying nearly >>>>>> $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to pay a >>>>>> $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>> >>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other people >>>> they >>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against Bush? >>>> >>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>> >>> >>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their fair >>> share of taxes, right? >>> >>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, low, >>> or >>> anything else. >>> >>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>> >>> Yes? >> >> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is this >> going? > > >"Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. You >meant to say YES but you were afraid to. > >Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band somehow >hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor festivals and >corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA equipment. You find a >dealer across the state line where sales tax (hypothetically speaking) is 3% >lower than where you live and the base price is identical to the dealer in >your state. It's a 15 minute drive to save $300.00. > >I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying more >tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. > But when you bring your PA equipment back with you, you'd have to pay the remaining tax anyway, you'd probably never get caught, but it's still required. Try another example. FWIW, I don't like the man's politics, but don't have a problem with what he did, it's legal. Bill Smith
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 27 Jul 2010 15:31 "Bill Smith" <quandary(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message news:c3bu465i56u21444d4pe9kn848aantuenm(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:17:25 -0400, "JoeSpareBedroom" > <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote: > >>"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about >>>>>>> his >>>>>>> new >>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>> event >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's summer >>>>>>> home >>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying nearly >>>>>>> $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to pay a >>>>>>> $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>> >>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other people >>>>> they >>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against Bush? >>>>> >>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>> >>>> >>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their >>>> fair >>>> share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>> low, >>>> or >>>> anything else. >>>> >>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> Yes? >>> >>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is this >>> going? >> >> >>"Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. You >>meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >> >>Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band somehow >>hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor festivals and >>corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA equipment. You find a >>dealer across the state line where sales tax (hypothetically speaking) is >>3% >>lower than where you live and the base price is identical to the dealer in >>your state. It's a 15 minute drive to save $300.00. >> >>I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying more >>tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. >> > > But when you bring your PA equipment back with you, you'd have to pay > the remaining tax anyway, you'd probably never get caught, but it's > still required. Try another example. > > FWIW, I don't like the man's politics, but don't have a problem with > what he did, it's legal. > > Bill Smith How would I get caught bringing PA equipment across state lines?
From: Bill Smith on 27 Jul 2010 16:28
>> >> But when you bring your PA equipment back with you, you'd have to pay >> the remaining tax anyway, you'd probably never get caught, but it's >> still required. Try another example. >> >> FWIW, I don't like the man's politics, but don't have a problem with >> what he did, it's legal. >> >> Bill Smith > > >How would I get caught bringing PA equipment across state lines? > If your a business and are audited by whatever agency in that State collects sales taxes. A successful band would be a business for tax purposes, the probability that an individual could be caught, OTOH, is remote in the extreme. The States are trying desperately to collect taxes on interstate Internet sales, for example, and aren't having a lot of luck, unless the company is high profile enough to become a big target. A tool company I buy from for my machine shop is in a neighboring State and they collect sales tax for my State on each sale. Bill Smith |