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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 26 Jul 2010 22:32 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:17:39 -0400, Scout wrote: > Oh, and while we're on the subject of budgets, I recalled something the > other say, and a quick bit of research confirms my memory. People have been > sayinig the current deficits are all the fault of Bush because we are still > operating under the Bush budget....well that's not totally true. A > significant portion of the budget wasn't passed until Obama came to office > and he signed it as the 2010 omnibus appropriations bill. A $1.1 Trillion > dollar spending budget. Since the total budget in 2010 was $3.8 Trillion, > looks like Obama is responsible for about 1/3 of it, and it's related > deficit. Oh, and let's not forget that omnibus bill was loaded with > pork..... Nice try, but ANYTHING that goes bad for the remaining 30 months of Obungler's term will be Bush's fault. Anything that goes right will be all the Messiah's.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 26 Jul 2010 22:58 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:4c4e44fe$0$74748$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:13:45 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:4c4e3e22$0$74748$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:18:06 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about >>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>>>> event >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>>>> summer >>>>>>>>> home >>>>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>>>> nearly >>>>>>>>> $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to pay a >>>>>>>>> $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other people >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>>>> Bush? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their >>>>>> fair >>>>>> share of taxes, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>>>> low, >>>>>> or >>>>>> anything else. >>>>>> >>>>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes? >>>>> >>>>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>>>> this >>>>> going? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. You >>>> meant to say YES but you were afraid to. >>>> >>>> Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band >>>> somehow >>>> hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor festivals and >>>> corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA equipment. You find a >>>> dealer across the state line where sales tax (hypothetically speaking) >>>> is >>>> 3% >>>> lower than where you live and the base price is identical to the dealer >>>> in >>>> your state. It's a 15 minute drive to save $300.00. >>>> >>>> I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying >>>> more >>>> tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. >>> >>> We get all our stuff from a place in state. We can beat them down enough >>> to beat the tax, and still pay it. >>> >>> And that would be $650 in taxes, and we'd still be able to get the price >>> down enough. >> >> >> But if you couldn't get the price down, you would ABSOLUTELY drive across >> state lines to save the tax money. I know you would. You know you would. >> You're a lousy dancer. Stop trying. > > Yeah. But I also never tell anyone they need to pay their taxes, either. In a way, you did. You danced around saying that you believed everyone needed to pay their fair share, however that's defined. You wanted to say yes to this, but you were afraid to. Here's your lame dance: > <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is this > going?
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 26 Jul 2010 23:11 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:58:46 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> But if you couldn't get the price down, you would ABSOLUTELY drive across >>> state lines to save the tax money. I know you would. You know you would. >>> You're a lousy dancer. Stop trying. >> >> Yeah. But I also never tell anyone they need to pay their taxes, either. > > > In a way, you did. You danced around saying that you believed everyone > needed to pay their fair share Better check what Kerry said when he was running for Pres. He's the one who said it, not me. I don't give a flying leap whether he pays it or not. That doesn't make me the hypocrite.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 26 Jul 2010 23:13 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:4c4e4e8d$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:58:46 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > >>>> But if you couldn't get the price down, you would ABSOLUTELY drive >>>> across >>>> state lines to save the tax money. I know you would. You know you >>>> would. >>>> You're a lousy dancer. Stop trying. >>> >>> Yeah. But I also never tell anyone they need to pay their taxes, either. >> >> >> In a way, you did. You danced around saying that you believed everyone >> needed to pay their fair share > > Better check what Kerry said when he was running for Pres. He's the one > who said it, not me. I don't give a flying leap whether he pays it or not. > That doesn't make me the hypocrite. What did he say about this subject, EXACTLY? You sound very sure of it, so I assume you have a link to a source. Without a source, it's unlikely you have an accurate memory of what he said.
From: pyotr filipivich on 26 Jul 2010 23:34
[Default] Let the Record show that "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> on or about Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400 did write, type or otherwise cause to appear in talk.politics.guns the following: >"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >> >> >> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local people...) >> >> >> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >> >> >> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >> (7/24/2010) >> >> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about his new >> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >> >> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an event at >> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >> >> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's summer home >> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying nearly >> $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to pay a >> $70,000-a-year excise tax. > > >Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. "Capital has no country" said Karl Marx. Neither do the wealthy. > -- pyotr filipivich "Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. " Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.) |