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From: JoeSpareBedroom on 26 Jul 2010 21:18 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>> people...) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>> >>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about his >>>>> new >>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>> >>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an event >>>>> at >>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>> >>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's summer >>>>> home >>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying nearly >>>>> $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to pay a >>>>> $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>> >>>> >>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>> >>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other people >>> they >>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against Bush? >>> >>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >> >> >> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their fair >> share of taxes, right? >> >> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, low, >> or >> anything else. >> >> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >> >> Yes? > > <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is this > going? "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. You meant to say YES but you were afraid to. Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band somehow hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor festivals and corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA equipment. You find a dealer across the state line where sales tax (hypothetically speaking) is 3% lower than where you live and the base price is identical to the dealer in your state. It's a 15 minute drive to save $300.00. I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying more tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry.
From: Scout on 26 Jul 2010 21:50 JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>> people...) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>> >>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday >>>>>> about his new >>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>> >>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>> event at >>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>> >>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>> summer home >>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to >>>>>> pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>> >>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>> people they >>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>> Bush? How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>> >>> >>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay >>> their fair share of taxes, right? >>> >>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>> low, or >>> anything else. >>> >>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>> >>> Yes? >> >> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >> this going? > > > "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. Ah, so if we set the tax rate for the very rich at 98%, then that's their "fair share".... Seems rather......arbitrary.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 26 Jul 2010 21:53 "Scout" <me4guns(a)verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:i2le0q$cn4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday >>>>>>> about his new >>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>> event at >>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>> summer home >>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to >>>>>>> pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>> >>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>>> people they >>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>> Bush? How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>> >>>> >>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay >>>> their fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>> low, or >>>> anything else. >>>> >>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> Yes? >>> >>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>> this going? >> >> >> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. > > Ah, so if we set the tax rate for the very rich at 98%, then that's their > "fair share".... > > Seems rather......arbitrary. For purposes of this discussion, it doesn't matter WHAT the rate is. All that matters is the 3% difference 15 minutes away. If you want to debate what absolute number is "fair", start another thread.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 26 Jul 2010 22:01 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:18:06 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>> people...) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>> >>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday about his >>>>>> new >>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>> >>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an event >>>>>> at >>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>> >>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's summer >>>>>> home >>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying nearly >>>>>> $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to pay a >>>>>> $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>> >>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other people >>>> they >>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against Bush? >>>> >>>> How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>> >>> >>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay their fair >>> share of taxes, right? >>> >>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, low, >>> or >>> anything else. >>> >>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>> >>> Yes? >> >> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is this >> going? > > > "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. You > meant to say YES but you were afraid to. > > Now I will show you that you're no different than Kerry. Your band somehow > hits the big time, playing high-priced weddings, outdoor festivals and > corporate events. You need $10,000.00 worth of PA equipment. You find a > dealer across the state line where sales tax (hypothetically speaking) is 3% > lower than where you live and the base price is identical to the dealer in > your state. It's a 15 minute drive to save $300.00. > > I know what you'd do. You'd make the 15 minute drive to avoid paying more > tax. Don't tell me otherwise. You're just like Kerry. We get all our stuff from a place in state. We can beat them down enough to beat the tax, and still pay it. And that would be $650 in taxes, and we'd still be able to get the price down enough. We'd probably also buy US made stuff, not a $7M made in New Zealand yacht. Also, I don' thave the money Kerry does. If I did, I'd go down to the store and buy that PA right now.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 26 Jul 2010 22:04
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:50:17 -0400, Scout wrote: > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:4c4e3126$0$74763$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:29 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:4c4e0dc6$0$74751$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:08:11 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4df87e$0$74749$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... >>>>>>> John Kerry wants YOU to pay your taxes, but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (PS, it could have been built in Mass or NH and employed local >>>>>>> people...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BOSTON (WBZ) ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Kerry Docks New Yacht In RI, Saves Taxes >>>>>>> (7/24/2010) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Senator John Kerry found himself answering questions Monday >>>>>>> about his new >>>>>>> $7 million yacht and the controversy about where he's docking it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "There's nothing more to say about it," he told reporters at an >>>>>>> event at >>>>>>> the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station Monday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "Isabel" is docked in Rhode Island rather than at Kerry's >>>>>>> summer home >>>>>>> on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor. That means he avoids paying >>>>>>> nearly $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts and he doesn't have to >>>>>>> pay a $70,000-a-year excise tax. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Smart move. That's how you get rich or stay rich. >>>>> >>>>> Fine and well, if you're not in the practice of telling other >>>>> people they >>>>> have to pay their taxes. Remember when Kerry was running against >>>>> Bush? How quickly we forget...but some of us *don't* . >>>> >>>> >>>> OK. Let's clarify something. You feel that everyone should pay >>>> their fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> I'm not asking whether you LIKE taxes, or whether they're too high, >>>> low, or >>>> anything else. >>>> >>>> You feel that everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, right? >>>> >>>> Yes? >>> >>> <Sniff...sniff...> WHat do you consider "fair share", and where is >>> this going? >> >> >> "Fair share" means whatever is the legal requirement at the moment. > > Ah, so if we set the tax rate for the very rich at 98%, then that's their > "fair share".... > > Seems rather......arbitrary. What gets me is the Democrat Congress has raised one tax or another every month since Obungler was elected. Hey, why not? THEY don't pay their taxes! Rangler, Kerry and Geitner...the Three Stooges of Tax Evasion. Pelosi doesn't have to worry about paying taxes for air travel...you can't pay a tax on NOTHING! |