From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:01 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:

>> When an immigrant comes LEGALLY and has a baby before she attains
>> citizenship, I have absolutely no problem calling her baby a citizen.
>> Legal immigrants have a Green Card (Resident Alien identification),
>> and a baby born to a person of such status should be considered an
>> American citizen. That's perfectly fine with me. But when the mother
>> is an illegal immigrant, then the baby should be considered to be a
>> citizen of whatever country the mother is from. If the mother is a
>> visiting alien on a proper Visitor's Visa then that baby should also
>> be considered to be the same citizenship as the mother. (It's almost
>> impossible to be a visiting alien AND be here long enough to pump out
>> a baby, so sending the baby home with the mother wouldn't cause me any
>> grief at all.)
>
> We pretty much agree......

Hmmm...are you *SURE* you're a Democrat?!?!?! ;)



From: Clive on
In message <i320i1$6df$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Jeff Strickland
<crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> writes
>The government cannot, or will not, send an American citizen (minor child,
>to boot) packing, and will instead allow an alien parent to receive resident
>alien status for no other reason than to care for the minor child. That is
>an attraction of the anchor baby clause of 14 -- come here and have a baby,
>then seek resident alien status through the relationship with the child.
>Siblings can also get resident alien status from the same anchor baby.
A woman came through Britain on the way to the states, for a prolonged
holiday, but had to change planes here. The Customs and Excise
(Immigration) noticed that all was not as it seemed so retained her for
questioning. It transpired that she was passed the date where she
should fly and the Customs were aware of your clause 14 so they had a
word with the American Embassy who requested that she didn't proceed.
She was turned around and put on a flight back home.
--
Clive

From: Scout on


"Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:4c54b548$0$74750$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se...
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:01 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>
>>> When an immigrant comes LEGALLY and has a baby before she attains
>>> citizenship, I have absolutely no problem calling her baby a citizen.
>>> Legal immigrants have a Green Card (Resident Alien identification),
>>> and a baby born to a person of such status should be considered an
>>> American citizen. That's perfectly fine with me. But when the mother
>>> is an illegal immigrant, then the baby should be considered to be a
>>> citizen of whatever country the mother is from. If the mother is a
>>> visiting alien on a proper Visitor's Visa then that baby should also
>>> be considered to be the same citizenship as the mother. (It's almost
>>> impossible to be a visiting alien AND be here long enough to pump out
>>> a baby, so sending the baby home with the mother wouldn't cause me any
>>> grief at all.)
>>
>> We pretty much agree......
>
> Hmmm...are you *SURE* you're a Democrat?!?!?! ;)

He was a democrat....now he's an independent.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:14:22 +0100, Clive wrote:

> In message <i320i1$6df$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Jeff Strickland
> <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> writes
>>The government cannot, or will not, send an American citizen (minor child,
>>to boot) packing, and will instead allow an alien parent to receive resident
>>alien status for no other reason than to care for the minor child. That is
>>an attraction of the anchor baby clause of 14 -- come here and have a baby,
>>then seek resident alien status through the relationship with the child.
>>Siblings can also get resident alien status from the same anchor baby.
> A woman came through Britain on the way to the states, for a prolonged
> holiday, but had to change planes here. The Customs and Excise
> (Immigration) noticed that all was not as it seemed so retained her for
> questioning. It transpired that she was passed the date where she
> should fly and the Customs were aware of your clause 14 so they had a
> word with the American Embassy who requested that she didn't proceed.
> She was turned around and put on a flight back home.

Hmmmmm.....

> It transpired that she was passed the date where she
> should fly and the Customs were aware of your clause 14 so they had a
> word with the American Embassy who requested that she didn't proceed.
> She was turned around and put on a flight back home.


You didn't want her either? Where was she from? ;)



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:25:32 -0400, Scout wrote:

>
>
> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:4c54b548$0$74750$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se...
>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:01 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>>
>>>> When an immigrant comes LEGALLY and has a baby before she attains
>>>> citizenship, I have absolutely no problem calling her baby a citizen.
>>>> Legal immigrants have a Green Card (Resident Alien identification),
>>>> and a baby born to a person of such status should be considered an
>>>> American citizen. That's perfectly fine with me. But when the mother
>>>> is an illegal immigrant, then the baby should be considered to be a
>>>> citizen of whatever country the mother is from. If the mother is a
>>>> visiting alien on a proper Visitor's Visa then that baby should also
>>>> be considered to be the same citizenship as the mother. (It's almost
>>>> impossible to be a visiting alien AND be here long enough to pump out
>>>> a baby, so sending the baby home with the mother wouldn't cause me any
>>>> grief at all.)
>>>
>>> We pretty much agree......
>>
>> Hmmm...are you *SURE* you're a Democrat?!?!?! ;)
>
> He was a democrat....now he's an independent.


I was an Independant, but now I'm a Republican (you have to declare a
party affiliation to vote in the primaries in Mass)

I may have changed back, but I don't remember. We'll find out in November! ;)