From: Scout on


"edspyhill01" <edspyhill01(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 30, 8:29 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>> If you're here illegally, and whelp a pup, it's an American Citizen.
>>
>> I guess with all of the latest negative press and pressure from
>> Conservative, Lindsey Graham thinks he$B!G(Bs figured out a nice bone to
>> throw for appeasement. Now, all of a sudden, he$B!G(Bs very irritated by all
>> of these anchor babies born here in America and he says:
>>
>> $B!H(BI may introduce a constitutional amendment that changes the rules
>> if you have a child here,$B!I(B Graham said during an interview with Fox
>> News$B!G(B Greta Van Susteren. $B!H(BBirthright citizenship I think is a
>> mistake, that we should change our Constitution and say if you come
>> here illegally and you have a child, that child$B!G(Bs automatically not
>> a citizen.$B!I(B Asked how intent Graham is on introducing the amendment,
>> the South Carolina Republican responded: $B!H(BI got to.$B!I(B $B!H(BPeople
>> come here to have babies,$B!I(B he said. $B!H(BThey come here to drop a
>> child. It$B!G(Bs called $B!H(Bdrop and leave.$B!I(B To have a child in America,
>> they cross the border, they go to the emergency room, have a child,
>> and that child$B!G(Bs automatically an American citizen. That shouldn$B!G(Bt
>> be the case. That attracts people here for all the wrong reasons.$B!I(B
>>
>> Also up for consideration are "Birth Tours", where women ready to pop
>> come
>> here, have a "US Citizen", then go home. On the surface, this really
>> isn't
>> bad, since when the baby comes of age he can choose whether to stay where
>> he is, or claim his US birthright and "come home".
>>
>> However, some are using this as a hedge against economic downturns in
>> their own countries, and then coming back with their "US citizen".
>
> NOBODY will introduce a constitutional amendment to change that law.
> I also think nobody will chance opening the constitutional ammendment
> process for fear of what will happen. The first thing the loons will
> do is declare America a Christian nation and Christianity as the state
> religion.

What does one have to do with either of the others. Unless you put that in
your proposed Amendment, then it's not in there. If they want to start their
own Amendment saying this things, neither can you stop them, nor does it
alter the Amendment you are proposing in the least.


>
> Why don't we all take 24 hours away from any media and rethink a few
> things through.

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:01:04 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:

> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
> wrote in news:i34f5g$iic$4(a)news.albasani.net:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:19:35 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>>
>>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>> wrote in news:4c54b548$0$74750$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:01 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> When an immigrant comes LEGALLY and has a baby before she attains
>>>>>> citizenship, I have absolutely no problem calling her baby a
>>>>>> citizen. Legal immigrants have a Green Card (Resident Alien
>>>>>> identification), and a baby born to a person of such status should
>>>>>> be considered an American citizen. That's perfectly fine with me.
>>>>>> But when the mother is an illegal immigrant, then the baby should
>>>>>> be considered to be a citizen of whatever country the mother is
>>>>>> from. If the mother is a visiting alien on a proper Visitor's Visa
>>>>>> then that baby should also be considered to be the same
>>>>>> citizenship as the mother. (It's almost impossible to be a
>>>>>> visiting alien AND be here long enough to pump out a baby, so
>>>>>> sending the baby home with the mother wouldn't cause me
>>> any
>>>>>> grief at all.)
>>>>>
>>>>> We pretty much agree......
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm...are you *SURE* you're a Democrat?!?!?! ;)
>>>
>>> I am *emphatically* NOT a Democrat. I am old school liberal or what
>>> today is called a centrist.
>>
>> Oops. Sorry. I didn't mean to insult you by calling you a "Democrat".
>> My bad!
>
> You may be forgiven but you must look to a real Democrat and say,
> "Neener, neener, neener." ;)

Considering here in Leftern Mass I'm surrounded, it's not a problem.

I do the equivalent in a letter to the editor of the local paper almost
every month, anyway. I told them they were all COVEs:

Citizens Opposed to Virtually Everything.



From: Aratzio on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:

>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about these
>idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands for? They
>aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing their best to keep
>everyone else from getting anything at all.

Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel threatened. It
is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising to their level so
much as they are dropping the the lower rungs of the economic ladder.
What they see as their historical perogative is being stripped away.

The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have done
the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor their rich
contributors.


From: Mike on
You mean like the Unions?


"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about these
>>idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands for? They
>>aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing their best to keep
>>everyone else from getting anything at all.
>
> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel threatened. It
> is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising to their level so
> much as they are dropping the the lower rungs of the economic ladder.
> What they see as their historical perogative is being stripped away.
>
> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have done
> the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor their rich
> contributors.
>
>


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:11:17 -0400, Mike wrote:

> You mean like the Unions?

That pretty much nails it.

>
>
> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> news:27je565emckk9dbcjfpttki2j6surv7gc2(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about these
>>>idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands for? They
>>>aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing their best to keep
>>>everyone else from getting anything at all.
>>
>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel threatened. It
>> is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising to their level so
>> much as they are dropping the the lower rungs of the economic ladder.
>> What they see as their historical perogative is being stripped away.
>>
>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have done
>> the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor their rich
>> contributors.
>>
>>