From: RD Sandman on
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote
in news:4c54b548$0$74750$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se:

> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:01 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>
>>> When an immigrant comes LEGALLY and has a baby before she attains
>>> citizenship, I have absolutely no problem calling her baby a citizen.
>>> Legal immigrants have a Green Card (Resident Alien identification),
>>> and a baby born to a person of such status should be considered an
>>> American citizen. That's perfectly fine with me. But when the mother
>>> is an illegal immigrant, then the baby should be considered to be a
>>> citizen of whatever country the mother is from. If the mother is a
>>> visiting alien on a proper Visitor's Visa then that baby should also
>>> be considered to be the same citizenship as the mother. (It's almost
>>> impossible to be a visiting alien AND be here long enough to pump out
>>> a baby, so sending the baby home with the mother wouldn't cause me
any
>>> grief at all.)
>>
>> We pretty much agree......
>
> Hmmm...are you *SURE* you're a Democrat?!?!?! ;)

I am *emphatically* NOT a Democrat. I am old school liberal or what
today is called a centrist.

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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:32:20 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

> Let's look at the wingnut mind, according to him it is not about his
> fellow human beings or even following the laws and constitution of the
> United States,

Well, what do you think the real reason the Democrats want to ignore the
situation? Humanitarian reasons? BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Sure, Ratzoo. It's all for
humanitarian reasons.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:07:25 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote:

> On Aug 1, 11:42 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:33:20 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote:
>> > On Jul 30, 8:29 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>> >> If you're here illegally, and whelp a pup, it's an American Citizen.
>>
>> >> I guess with all of the latest negative press and pressure from
>> >> Conservative, Lindsey Graham thinks he's figured out a nice bone to
>> >> throw for appeasement. Now, all of a sudden, he's very irritated by all
>> >> of these anchor babies born here in America and he says:
>>
>> >> “I may introduce a constitutional amendment that changes the rules
>> >> if you have a child here,” Graham said during an interview with Fox
>> >> News' Greta Van Susteren. “Birthright citizenship I think is a
>> >> mistake, that we should change our Constitution and say if you come
>> >> here illegally and you have a child, that child's automatically not
>> >> a citizen.” Asked how intent Graham is on introducing the amendment,
>> >> the South Carolina Republican responded: “I got to.” “People
>> >> come here to have babies,” he said. “They come here to drop a
>> >> child. It's called “drop and leave.” To have a child in America,
>> >> they cross the border, they go to the emergency room, have a child,
>> >> and that child's automatically an American citizen. That shouldn't
>> >> be the case. That attracts people here for all the wrong reasons.”
>>
>> >> Also up for consideration are "Birth Tours", where women ready to pop come
>> >> here, have a "US Citizen", then go home. On the surface, this really isn't
>> >> bad, since when the baby comes of age he can choose whether to stay where
>> >> he is, or claim his US birthright and "come home".
>>
>> >> However, some are using this as a hedge against economic downturns in
>> >> their own countries, and then coming back with their "US citizen".
>>
>> > NOBODY will introduce a constitutional amendment to change that law.
>> > I also think nobody will chance opening the constitutional ammendment
>> > process for fear of what will happen. The first thing the loons will
>> > do is declare America a Christian nation and Christianity as the state
>> > religion.
>>
>> No, the first thing that will happen is the Democrats will declare all
>> illegal immigrants citizens and give them voting rights. 12M new Democrat
>> voters with the stroke of a pen! Insurance of future Democrat wins.
>>
>> That's all they want. They don't care about the poor 'brown people', they
>> want the votes. If they were a corporation they would be after themselves
>> for corrupt practices.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Why don't we all take 24 hours away from any media and rethink a few
>> > things through.- Hide quoted text -
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>
> Stop it, you sound like chicken little. You think democrats vote in
> lock-step like the republicans. We don't.


Bullshit. Oh, wait. Weiner couldn't get enough Democrat votes for the
First Responder bill.

Why couldn't he, Eddie? There must have been something.

Let's say I have some old meat hanging around, and I don't want to throw
it away. So I wrap it in something else much better and hand it to you.
You take a look at it and see brown meat in it. Why don't you want to eat
it?

There was something in that bill even Democrats found funky.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:19:35 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:

> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote
> in news:4c54b548$0$74750$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:01 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>>
>>>> When an immigrant comes LEGALLY and has a baby before she attains
>>>> citizenship, I have absolutely no problem calling her baby a citizen.
>>>> Legal immigrants have a Green Card (Resident Alien identification),
>>>> and a baby born to a person of such status should be considered an
>>>> American citizen. That's perfectly fine with me. But when the mother
>>>> is an illegal immigrant, then the baby should be considered to be a
>>>> citizen of whatever country the mother is from. If the mother is a
>>>> visiting alien on a proper Visitor's Visa then that baby should also
>>>> be considered to be the same citizenship as the mother. (It's almost
>>>> impossible to be a visiting alien AND be here long enough to pump out
>>>> a baby, so sending the baby home with the mother wouldn't cause me
> any
>>>> grief at all.)
>>>
>>> We pretty much agree......
>>
>> Hmmm...are you *SURE* you're a Democrat?!?!?! ;)
>
> I am *emphatically* NOT a Democrat. I am old school liberal or what
> today is called a centrist.

Oops. Sorry. I didn't mean to insult you by calling you a "Democrat". My
bad!



From: RD Sandman on
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
wrote in news:i34f5g$iic$4(a)news.albasani.net:

> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:19:35 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>
>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>> wrote in news:4c54b548$0$74750$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se:
>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:01 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>
>>>>> When an immigrant comes LEGALLY and has a baby before she attains
>>>>> citizenship, I have absolutely no problem calling her baby a
>>>>> citizen. Legal immigrants have a Green Card (Resident Alien
>>>>> identification), and a baby born to a person of such status should
>>>>> be considered an American citizen. That's perfectly fine with me.
>>>>> But when the mother is an illegal immigrant, then the baby should
>>>>> be considered to be a citizen of whatever country the mother is
>>>>> from. If the mother is a visiting alien on a proper Visitor's Visa
>>>>> then that baby should also be considered to be the same
>>>>> citizenship as the mother. (It's almost impossible to be a
>>>>> visiting alien AND be here long enough to pump out a baby, so
>>>>> sending the baby home with the mother wouldn't cause me
>> any
>>>>> grief at all.)
>>>>
>>>> We pretty much agree......
>>>
>>> Hmmm...are you *SURE* you're a Democrat?!?!?! ;)
>>
>> I am *emphatically* NOT a Democrat. I am old school liberal or what
>> today is called a centrist.
>
> Oops. Sorry. I didn't mean to insult you by calling you a "Democrat".
> My bad!

You may be forgiven but you must look to a real Democrat and say,
"Neener, neener, neener." ;)



--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

The three stages of our economy.......

Recession - You neighbor loses his job...

Depression - You lose your job...

Recovery - Obama loses his....