From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora
>> <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about these
>>>idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands for? They
>>>aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing their best to keep
>>>everyone else from getting anything at all.
>>
>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel threatened. It
>> is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising to their level so much
>> as they are dropping the the lower rungs of the economic ladder. What
>> they see as their historical perogative is being stripped away.
>
>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class struggle
>with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure?

Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on the economic
ladder are less important. Since most of the people they see as being
below them are minorities the anger is then directed at the
minorities. There is actual racism there is no doubt but if you were
to put most of them in front of a person of color there would not be
racism. It is more a generalized feeling than an actual thought
process. Classic example is the interviews of the Teabaggers holding
racist signs and they don't even have a clue it is a racist sign.

The anger should be directed at those that are stripping away the
middle class and destroying our ability to manufacture.

These angry people are the same people that scream and rant about any
cuts to military spending but do not realize that same stripping of
manufacturing capability will also destroy our long term ability to
defend ourselves.

The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and at that
point we will no longer have the economic or military ability to
defend ourselves.

>
>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have done
>> the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor their rich
>> contributors.
>
>Absolutely agreed!

They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of the ruling
class, because the ruling class keeps lying to them about their
ability to become the ruling class.
From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:32:30 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:59:57 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:58:48 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>
>
>>> Who said they were not, Strawboy? Do try to keep up with the big kids.
>>> You were whining about your paranoid delusion that the democrats were
>>> going to legalize all the illegal immigrants just to have more voters.
>>> You were laughed at for being a paranoid fucktube and then you started
>>> snipping-n-running.
>>
>>
>> Prove that is not what's going to happen (pr, more to the point, what
>> they are going to try to do?)
>
>Ah, more of the hallucinations of Hachoo that he believes are reality.
>Poor thing.

More to the point, he demands his delusions be proven wrong.

Note: he didn't argue their essential delusional nature.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:18:00 -0500, pandora wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:56:19 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about these
>>>>>idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands for? They
>>>>>aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing their best to
>>>>>keep everyone else from getting anything at all.
>>>>
>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel threatened. It
>>>> is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising to their level so
>>>> much as they are dropping the the lower rungs of the economic ladder.
>>>> What they see as their historical perogative is being stripped away.
>>>
>>> That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class struggle
>>> with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure?
>>>
>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have done
>>>> the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor their rich
>>>> contributors.
>>>
>>> Absolutely agreed!
>>
>> And yet, I bet you think $11,000 for a wedding cake and a wedding that
>> cost $12,000 per guest is OK.
>>
>> Feh.
>
> Ahhh, poor little wingnut. Didn't get invited to the wedding. They must
> have lost your invitation. Hey, at least they were spending their money
> and stimulating the economy, eh?


Yeah. Sure.
From: pandora on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:01:18 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:32:30 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora
> <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:59:57 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:58:48 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Who said they were not, Strawboy? Do try to keep up with the big
>>>> kids. You were whining about your paranoid delusion that the
>>>> democrats were going to legalize all the illegal immigrants just to
>>>> have more voters. You were laughed at for being a paranoid fucktube
>>>> and then you started snipping-n-running.
>>>
>>>
>>> Prove that is not what's going to happen (pr, more to the point, what
>>> they are going to try to do?)
>>
>>Ah, more of the hallucinations of Hachoo that he believes are reality.
>>Poor thing.
>
> More to the point, he demands his delusions be proven wrong.

Indeed. He dreams em up and then others are supposed to prove they
aren't gonna happen. Fey!

> Note: he didn't argue their essential delusional nature.

Probably because he believes that really IS what's going to happen.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:32:30 -0500, pandora wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:59:57 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:58:48 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>
>
>>> Who said they were not, Strawboy? Do try to keep up with the big kids.
>>> You were whining about your paranoid delusion that the democrats were
>>> going to legalize all the illegal immigrants just to have more voters.
>>> You were laughed at for being a paranoid fucktube and then you started
>>> snipping-n-running.
>>
>>
>> Prove that is not what's going to happen (pr, more to the point, what
>> they are going to try to do?)
>
> Ah, more of the hallucinations of Hachoo that he believes are reality.
> Poor thing.

I should know better than to ask people whou couldn't think their way out
of a wet sock to try to imagine a potential outcome.

Sorry, won't ask questions anymore that require an answer more difficult
than "MEEEEE TOOOO!"



>
>>
>> The fact of the matter is, Obungler has made such a mess of things
>> Democrats are running from him rather than trying to seek endorsements
>> (NBC Nightly News, tonight). So in order to maintain power, they will do
>> whatever is required to maintain the voter base. What better way than to
>> grant 12M people Legal Residence status, and then Fast Track them to
>> citizenship, give them free health care and access to Welfare.
>>
>> Only a real idiot wouldn't be able to see...
>>
>>
>> never mind...
>>