From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:17:48 -0500, pandora wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:49:23 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:35:53 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:52:17 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:32:30 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:59:57 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:58:48 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who said they were not, Strawboy? Do try to keep up with the big
>>>>>>> kids. You were whining about your paranoid delusion that the
>>>>>>> democrats were going to legalize all the illegal immigrants just to
>>>>>>> have more voters. You were laughed at for being a paranoid fucktube
>>>>>>> and then you started snipping-n-running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove that is not what's going to happen (pr, more to the point,
>>>>>> what they are going to try to do?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, more of the hallucinations of Hachoo that he believes are
>>>>> reality. Poor thing.
>>>>
>>>> I should know better than to ask people whou couldn't think their way
>>>> out of a wet sock to try to imagine a potential outcome.
>>>
>>> At least I don't go around imagining scenarios and then tossing them
>>> out as reality. You should have that looked at.
>>
>> Prove they can't be.
>>
> I'm not about to attempt to prove that you're nuts. I'll let your own
> words do that.


You are a brainless twit. Are you a citizen, because we already have a
fair share of brainless twits voting already. Certainly explains Obama.

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:32:29 -0500, pandora wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:23:24 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:52:17 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>try to imagine a potential outcome
>>
>> Hachiroku proving his concept was a delusion while arguing it is real.
>
> I guess he wants everyone else to be enveloped by his delusions.
> He's not very familiar with reality.

I know thinking past the next 5 minutes can be extremely difficult for
some, but if you try it thirty seconds at a time, you may get up to a full
minute on a year's time.

Wow. I hope you aren't involved in some science like medicine. You'd still
be looking for penicillin...



From: pandora on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:05:26 -0400, ah wrote:

> On 8/3/2010 9:57 PM, Aratzio wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora
>> <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about these
>>>>>idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands for? They
>>>>>aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing their best to
>>>>>keep everyone else from getting anything at all.
>>>>
>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel threatened.
>>>> It is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising to their level
>>>> so much as they are dropping the the lower rungs of the economic
>>>> ladder. What they see as their historical perogative is being
>>>> stripped away.
>>>
>>>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class struggle
>>>with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure?
>>
>> Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on the economic
>> ladder are less important. Since most of the people they see as being
>> below them are minorities the anger is then directed at the minorities.
>> There is actual racism there is no doubt but if you were to put most of
>> them in front of a person of color there would not be racism. It is
>> more a generalized feeling than an actual thought process. Classic
>> example is the interviews of the Teabaggers holding racist signs and
>> they don't even have a clue it is a racist sign.
>>
>> The anger should be directed at those that are stripping away the
>> middle class and destroying our ability to manufacture.
>>
>> These angry people are the same people that scream and rant about any
>> cuts to military spending but do not realize that same stripping of
>> manufacturing capability will also destroy our long term ability to
>> defend ourselves.
>>
>> The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and at that point
>> we will no longer have the economic or military ability to defend
>> ourselves.
>>
>>
>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have done
>>>> the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor their rich
>>>> contributors.
>>>
>>>Absolutely agreed!
>>
>> They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of the ruling
>> class, because the ruling class keeps lying to them about their ability
>> to become the ruling class.
>
> Oh, but we'll all be millionaires, one day!

I'm close, BUT it doesn't really mean a thing in today's economy. All
*I* hope for is that I don't live longer than my money holds out. Of
course, I still spend some, reasonably, as I haven't heard of anyone
taking it with them and my kids don't need it.

From: Aratzio on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:05:26 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah
<splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:

>On 8/3/2010 9:57 PM, Aratzio wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora
>>>> <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about these
>>>>>idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands for? They
>>>>>aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing their best to keep
>>>>>everyone else from getting anything at all.
>>>>
>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel threatened. It
>>>> is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising to their level so much
>>>> as they are dropping the the lower rungs of the economic ladder. What
>>>> they see as their historical perogative is being stripped away.
>>>
>>>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class struggle
>>>with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure?
>>
>> Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on the economic
>> ladder are less important. Since most of the people they see as being
>> below them are minorities the anger is then directed at the
>> minorities. There is actual racism there is no doubt but if you were
>> to put most of them in front of a person of color there would not be
>> racism. It is more a generalized feeling than an actual thought
>> process. Classic example is the interviews of the Teabaggers holding
>> racist signs and they don't even have a clue it is a racist sign.
>>
>> The anger should be directed at those that are stripping away the
>> middle class and destroying our ability to manufacture.
>>
>> These angry people are the same people that scream and rant about any
>> cuts to military spending but do not realize that same stripping of
>> manufacturing capability will also destroy our long term ability to
>> defend ourselves.
>>
>> The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and at that
>> point we will no longer have the economic or military ability to
>> defend ourselves.
>>
>>>
>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have done
>>>> the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor their rich
>>>> contributors.
>>>
>>>Absolutely agreed!
>>
>> They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of the ruling
>> class, because the ruling class keeps lying to them about their
>> ability to become the ruling class.
>
>Oh, but we'll all be millionaires, one day!

Umm, err, what if one already is?
From: pandora on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:18:23 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:13:57 -0500, pandora wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:33:47 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:49:50 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:01:18 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:32:30 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:59:57 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:58:48 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who said they were not, Strawboy? Do try to keep up with the big
>>>>>>>> kids. You were whining about your paranoid delusion that the
>>>>>>>> democrats were going to legalize all the illegal immigrants just
>>>>>>>> to have more voters. You were laughed at for being a paranoid
>>>>>>>> fucktube and then you started snipping-n-running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prove that is not what's going to happen (pr, more to the point,
>>>>>>> what they are going to try to do?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah, more of the hallucinations of Hachoo that he believes are
>>>>>>reality. Poor thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> More to the point, he demands his delusions be proven wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. He dreams em up and then others are supposed to prove they
>>>> aren't gonna happen. Fey!
>>>
>>>
>>> What a Brain Trust you two are.
>>> "Think outside the box? What box?"
>>>
>>> Wow. Absolutely incredible.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Note: he didn't argue their essential delusional nature.
>>>>
>>>> Probably because he believes that really IS what's going to happen.
>>>
>>>
>>> That Obungler is going to grant amnesty and have 12M new Democrats?
>>> Yup. Only dumbasses can't see that agenda.
>>
>> I now believe you to be completely deranged. Please seek help.
>
>
> Well, I could be wrong.

Indeed.

After being 'persecuted' for years by
> Republicans trying to eject them from the country, when the Amnesty is
> granted, they're going to run to the Republican party as soon as they
> can vote.

So, you not only have your pet delusions, you ascribe them to others.
Got it. What make you believe you can predict how others will vote? And
if you really can do that, you should be in politics.

> Sure.
>
> Never mind thinking before you post, do you ever *think* at *all*?