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From: Aratzio on 6 Aug 2010 22:08 On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:32:46 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:04:10 -0700, Aratzio wrote: > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 03:18:21 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora >> <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >> >>>On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:30:30 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:47:21 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>> >>>>>On 8/4/2010 9:16 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:05:26 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 8/3/2010 9:57 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for >>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for >>>>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about >>>>>>>>>>>these idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands >>>>>>>>>>>for? They aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing >>>>>>>>>>>their best to keep everyone else from getting anything at all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel >>>>>>>>>> threatened. It is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising >>>>>>>>>> to their level so much as they are dropping the the lower rungs >>>>>>>>>> of the economic ladder. What they see as their historical >>>>>>>>>> perogative is being stripped away. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class >>>>>>>>>struggle with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on the >>>>>>>> economic ladder are less important. Since most of the people they >>>>>>>> see as being below them are minorities the anger is then directed >>>>>>>> at the minorities. There is actual racism there is no doubt but if >>>>>>>> you were to put most of them in front of a person of color there >>>>>>>> would not be racism. It is more a generalized feeling than an >>>>>>>> actual thought process. Classic example is the interviews of the >>>>>>>> Teabaggers holding racist signs and they don't even have a clue it >>>>>>>> is a racist sign. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The anger should be directed at those that are stripping away the >>>>>>>> middle class and destroying our ability to manufacture. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These angry people are the same people that scream and rant about >>>>>>>> any cuts to military spending but do not realize that same >>>>>>>> stripping of manufacturing capability will also destroy our long >>>>>>>> term ability to defend ourselves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and at that >>>>>>>> point we will no longer have the economic or military ability to >>>>>>>> defend ourselves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have >>>>>>>>>> done the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor >>>>>>>>>> their rich contributors. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Absolutely agreed! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of the >>>>>>>> ruling class, because the ruling class keeps lying to them about >>>>>>>> their ability to become the ruling class. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Oh, but we'll all be millionaires, one day! >>>>>> >>>>>> Umm, err, what if one already is? >>>>> >>>>>braggart! >>>> >>>> I dinna sez I werz. >>>> >>>> I wished to know what we do with the ones already there? >>> >>>Be kind. I'm spending it as fast as I can. :-) >> >> I was on paper for a few short months. Then the CEO & CFO of my major >> holding were indicted in the backdating scandal and I was half as >> wealthy a month later. > >Bummer. Of course, most of what we're *worth* is in our house. We >bought very low and since we live in a resort area, the house has >continued to rise in value even with the downturn. Of course, if we >tried to sell NOW, we wouldn't get its assessed value. We're holding.... I've never counted the house as an ATM. I know what it is worth and it has no paper attached. I have considered that when I do decide to retire I should sell it and build a new place up in Creswell on the River. BTW We came over your side of the hill when I was up there. We popped over to Florence for lunch. I was the only one that had Scallops. I was the only person puking for a day...
From: pandora on 6 Aug 2010 22:23 On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:08:06 -0700, Aratzio wrote: > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:32:46 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora > <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: > >>On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:04:10 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 03:18:21 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >>> >>>>On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:30:30 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:47:21 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>> >>>>>>On 8/4/2010 9:16 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:05:26 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On 8/3/2010 9:57 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for >>>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of >>>>>>>>>>> alt.aratzio, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret >>>>>>>>>>> probation for writing: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about >>>>>>>>>>>>these idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it >>>>>>>>>>>>stands for? They aren't ONLY interested in getting their own >>>>>>>>>>>>but doing their best to keep everyone else from getting >>>>>>>>>>>>anything at all. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel >>>>>>>>>>> threatened. It is not that the poor or less fortunate are >>>>>>>>>>> rising to their level so much as they are dropping the the >>>>>>>>>>> lower rungs of the economic ladder. What they see as their >>>>>>>>>>> historical perogative is being stripped away. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class >>>>>>>>>>struggle with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on the >>>>>>>>> economic ladder are less important. Since most of the people >>>>>>>>> they see as being below them are minorities the anger is then >>>>>>>>> directed at the minorities. There is actual racism there is no >>>>>>>>> doubt but if you were to put most of them in front of a person >>>>>>>>> of color there would not be racism. It is more a generalized >>>>>>>>> feeling than an actual thought process. Classic example is the >>>>>>>>> interviews of the Teabaggers holding racist signs and they don't >>>>>>>>> even have a clue it is a racist sign. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The anger should be directed at those that are stripping away >>>>>>>>> the middle class and destroying our ability to manufacture. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These angry people are the same people that scream and rant >>>>>>>>> about any cuts to military spending but do not realize that same >>>>>>>>> stripping of manufacturing capability will also destroy our long >>>>>>>>> term ability to defend ourselves. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and at >>>>>>>>> that point we will no longer have the economic or military >>>>>>>>> ability to defend ourselves. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who >>>>>>>>>>> have done the most damage to the middle class in the USA to >>>>>>>>>>> favor their rich contributors. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Absolutely agreed! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of the >>>>>>>>> ruling class, because the ruling class keeps lying to them about >>>>>>>>> their ability to become the ruling class. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Oh, but we'll all be millionaires, one day! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Umm, err, what if one already is? >>>>>> >>>>>>braggart! >>>>> >>>>> I dinna sez I werz. >>>>> >>>>> I wished to know what we do with the ones already there? >>>> >>>>Be kind. I'm spending it as fast as I can. :-) >>> >>> I was on paper for a few short months. Then the CEO & CFO of my major >>> holding were indicted in the backdating scandal and I was half as >>> wealthy a month later. >> >>Bummer. Of course, most of what we're *worth* is in our house. We >>bought very low and since we live in a resort area, the house has >>continued to rise in value even with the downturn. Of course, if we >>tried to sell NOW, we wouldn't get its assessed value. We're >>holding.... > > I've never counted the house as an ATM. I know what it is worth and it > has no paper attached. I have considered that when I do decide to retire > I should sell it and build a new place up in Creswell on the River. Ours is *almost* paid off. We have the capital do pay it off and plan to do that in the next three years. Creswell is very nice. > BTW We came over your side of the hill when I was up there. We popped > over to Florence for lunch. I was the only one that had Scallops. I was > the only person puking for a day... I'm sorry. :-(
From: Sharx35 on 7 Aug 2010 04:12 "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message news:hvKdnTewU6Jv-MHRnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:26:15 -0600, §ñühw¤£f wrote: > >> pandora wrote: >>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:33:32 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:27:46 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:08:07 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:26:40 -0600, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>> §ñühw¤£f <snuhwolf(a)yahoo.com> got double secret probation for >>>>>> writing: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Point the illegl aliens to the border when the Giant Space Breasts >>>>>>>> are knocked from the sky by the North Korean Nuclear Missles. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tell me more about these floating hooters... >>>>>> They've already attacked Mars. >>>>>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/07/30/wham- > bulls- >>>>> eye/#more-19118 >>>>>> It is the Mark of the Breast, the end times are nigh! >>>>> Heh. Interesting stuff. >>>> I keep trying to tell people that Giant Breasts attacked Mars and no >>>> one wants to believe me. The pictures are proof. What else could have >>>> caused to "Mark of the Breast"? >>> >>> I tend to believe your hypothesis. All I know for any certainty, is >>> that they weren't mine. >> >> The first one is obviously a D cup...that supernumerary nipple is kinda >> cute though... > > Heh. Knew it wasn't mine. They're Cs. You boastin' or complainin'?
From: Sharx35 on 7 Aug 2010 04:14 "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message news:hvKdnTOwU6IzNMHRnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:04:10 -0700, Aratzio wrote: > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 03:18:21 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora >> <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >> >>>On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:30:30 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:47:21 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>> >>>>>On 8/4/2010 9:16 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:05:26 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah >>>>>> <splifingate(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 8/3/2010 9:57 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for >>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for >>>>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about >>>>>>>>>>>these idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands >>>>>>>>>>>for? They aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing >>>>>>>>>>>their best to keep everyone else from getting anything at all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel >>>>>>>>>> threatened. It is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising >>>>>>>>>> to their level so much as they are dropping the the lower rungs >>>>>>>>>> of the economic ladder. What they see as their historical >>>>>>>>>> perogative is being stripped away. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class >>>>>>>>>struggle with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on the >>>>>>>> economic ladder are less important. Since most of the people they >>>>>>>> see as being below them are minorities the anger is then directed >>>>>>>> at the minorities. There is actual racism there is no doubt but if >>>>>>>> you were to put most of them in front of a person of color there >>>>>>>> would not be racism. It is more a generalized feeling than an >>>>>>>> actual thought process. Classic example is the interviews of the >>>>>>>> Teabaggers holding racist signs and they don't even have a clue it >>>>>>>> is a racist sign. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The anger should be directed at those that are stripping away the >>>>>>>> middle class and destroying our ability to manufacture. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These angry people are the same people that scream and rant about >>>>>>>> any cuts to military spending but do not realize that same >>>>>>>> stripping of manufacturing capability will also destroy our long >>>>>>>> term ability to defend ourselves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and at that >>>>>>>> point we will no longer have the economic or military ability to >>>>>>>> defend ourselves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have >>>>>>>>>> done the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor >>>>>>>>>> their rich contributors. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Absolutely agreed! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of the >>>>>>>> ruling class, because the ruling class keeps lying to them about >>>>>>>> their ability to become the ruling class. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Oh, but we'll all be millionaires, one day! >>>>>> >>>>>> Umm, err, what if one already is? >>>>> >>>>>braggart! >>>> >>>> I dinna sez I werz. >>>> >>>> I wished to know what we do with the ones already there? >>> >>>Be kind. I'm spending it as fast as I can. :-) >> >> I was on paper for a few short months. Then the CEO & CFO of my major >> holding were indicted in the backdating scandal and I was half as >> wealthy a month later. > > Bummer. Of course, most of what we're *worth* is in our house. We > bought very low and since we live in a resort area, the house has > continued to rise in value even with the downturn. Of course, if we > tried to sell NOW, we wouldn't get its assessed value. We're holding.... Seriously, why WOULD you want to move from such a desirable area?
From: ah on 7 Aug 2010 06:24
On 8/6/2010 8:22 PM, pandora wrote: > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:40:13 -0400, ah wrote: > >> On 8/5/2010 10:36 PM, pandora wrote: >>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:47:43 -0400, ah wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/4/2010 9:13 PM, pandora wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:05:26 -0400, ah wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 8/3/2010 9:57 PM, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:54:05 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:58:23 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:33:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, >>>>>>>>> pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for >>>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It is certainly beginning to look that way. What is it about >>>>>>>>>>these idiots that makes them HATE the US and all that it stands >>>>>>>>>>for? They aren't ONLY interested in getting their own but doing >>>>>>>>>>their best to keep everyone else from getting anything at all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nutshell, the middle class is disappearing and tey feel >>>>>>>>> threatened. It is not that the poor or less fortunate are rising >>>>>>>>> to their level so much as they are dropping the the lower rungs >>>>>>>>> of the economic ladder. What they see as their historical >>>>>>>>> perogative is being stripped away. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That is a distinct possibility. So, it's really all a class >>>>>>>>struggle with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Racism in the sense that they feel those beneath them on the >>>>>>> economic ladder are less important. Since most of the people they >>>>>>> see as being below them are minorities the anger is then directed >>>>>>> at the minorities. There is actual racism there is no doubt but if >>>>>>> you were to put most of them in front of a person of color there >>>>>>> would not be racism. It is more a generalized feeling than an >>>>>>> actual thought process. Classic example is the interviews of the >>>>>>> Teabaggers holding racist signs and they don't even have a clue it >>>>>>> is a racist sign. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The anger should be directed at those that are stripping away the >>>>>>> middle class and destroying our ability to manufacture. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These angry people are the same people that scream and rant about >>>>>>> any cuts to military spending but do not realize that same >>>>>>> stripping of manufacturing capability will also destroy our long >>>>>>> term ability to defend ourselves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The loss of the middle class with bankrupt the nation and at that >>>>>>> point we will no longer have the economic or military ability to >>>>>>> defend ourselves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The sad thing is the people they support are the people who have >>>>>>>>> done the most damage to the middle class in the USA to favor >>>>>>>>> their rich contributors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Absolutely agreed! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They firmly believe that they too will one day be part of the >>>>>>> ruling class, because the ruling class keeps lying to them about >>>>>>> their ability to become the ruling class. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, but we'll all be millionaires, one day! >>>>> >>>>> I'm close, BUT it doesn't really mean a thing in today's economy. >>>>> All *I* hope for is that I don't live longer than my money holds out. >>>>> Of course, I still spend some, reasonably, as I haven't heard of >>>>> anyone taking it with them and my kids don't need it. >>>> >>>> Keep it flowing, Sister. >>> >>> I'm trying to do my best. :-) >> >> "Uh, Houston: we've got green lights all-across the board." > > That's a good thing, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeUGqeYsQg -- a "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nv28lunRSY" h |