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From: Ray O on 31 Oct 2007 23:10 "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47292170$0$90433$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... > ><snipped> Anyway, the parking lot is asphalt, but the jack stands > did not dig into the asphalt like I was worried about. Maybe > the extra wide feet of the Duralast stands helped. Jack stands won't dig into asphalt on a cool day. It is more of a problem on a hot day when the asphalt is softer. > > One thing that I was not expecting was the 2 short, quiet > creaking noises I heard when the car first began to > rise. I guess the creaking sounds came from the car's > frame/chassis? I used the lifting point recommended > by the Camry's manual (the jacking point located in the center > front-end of the car), but I wonder if lifting from this > single point puts a strain on the frame that the frame otherwise > would never experience if you simply > let your mechanic's garage lift the car with an > automotive lift that attaches to the 4 double notches along > the side rails? That's 4 lifting points being used simultaneously > instead of just one. Noises are difficult to identify without hearing them first hand, but creaking noises would make ME nervous unless you are lifting from a suspension component or axle. > > That reminds me. I'm happy to report that placing the > two jack stands underneath the car's 2 front-end double notches > which are found along the side rails did not have any bad affect on > the notches. Their seams didn't bend or anything. > > Well, I can't wait to do my first-ever oil change in March! > However, I know I'll still be really apprehensive about going > underneath the vehicle. Show a friend how to operate the jack and where to lift the car from, and have the friend near by to call 911 and lift the car off of you if it falls off of the jack stands. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Scott in Florida on 31 Oct 2007 23:22 On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:10:18 -0500, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote: > >"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:47292170$0$90433$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... >> >><snipped> Anyway, the parking lot is asphalt, but the jack stands >> did not dig into the asphalt like I was worried about. Maybe >> the extra wide feet of the Duralast stands helped. > >Jack stands won't dig into asphalt on a cool day. It is more of a problem >on a hot day when the asphalt is softer. > >> >> One thing that I was not expecting was the 2 short, quiet >> creaking noises I heard when the car first began to >> rise. I guess the creaking sounds came from the car's >> frame/chassis? I used the lifting point recommended >> by the Camry's manual (the jacking point located in the center >> front-end of the car), but I wonder if lifting from this >> single point puts a strain on the frame that the frame otherwise >> would never experience if you simply >> let your mechanic's garage lift the car with an >> automotive lift that attaches to the 4 double notches along >> the side rails? That's 4 lifting points being used simultaneously >> instead of just one. > >Noises are difficult to identify without hearing them first hand, but >creaking noises would make ME nervous unless you are lifting from a >suspension component or axle. > >> >> That reminds me. I'm happy to report that placing the >> two jack stands underneath the car's 2 front-end double notches >> which are found along the side rails did not have any bad affect on >> the notches. Their seams didn't bend or anything. >> >> Well, I can't wait to do my first-ever oil change in March! >> However, I know I'll still be really apprehensive about going >> underneath the vehicle. > >Show a friend how to operate the jack and where to lift the car from, and >have the friend near by to call 911 and lift the car off of you if it falls >off of the jack stands. or buy a hefty life insurance policy and make us all beneficiaries.... -- Scott in Florida
From: Built_Well on 1 Nov 2007 00:13 Ray O wrote: > Noises are difficult to identify without hearing them first hand, but > creaking noises would make ME nervous unless you are lifting from a > suspension component or axle. ======== Well, I lifted exactly where the manual instructs. The center front-end lifting point is found just after the protective plastic cover. The point is in the middle of a really thick beam that spans the width of the car. I only heard the soft, quiet creaking noise for one or two seconds as the car just began to rise, so I think everything's alright. Thanks for that tip about having somebody watch over me in case the unthinkable happens and the jack stands fail. I can't tell you how nervous I was going underneath the car today, but I did it. I just hope this isn't how I buy the farm. Yow! You really place your life in your hands when you go underneath the car. I didn't realize how much so until today. Are there things for which you, personally, spend a lot of time under the car? If yes, what? Oil changes must not require long stays underneath the vehicle, and rotating tires doesn't require one to go underneath. By the way, I took another look at that '08 Camry Solara SLE on display at Sam's Club. It has the 2AZ engine, which is the same as my '06 Camry LE. Yet the oil filler cap of the Solara says it can take 5w-*20* and 0w-20 oil, which is different than the 5w-*30* that the '06 Camry takes. I wouldn't put a 20-weight oil in my car, but, like I've said before, I would possibly consider a 0w-30 in place of the customary 5w-30. What do you think is going on? If 5w-*20* is okay for the 2AZ engine in the '08 Solara, why wouldn't it be okay in the same 2AZ engine in the '06 Camry?
From: Built_Well on 1 Nov 2007 00:25 Scott in Florida wrote: > I finally got a decent jack and it makes a world of difference > compared to using the car's jack. ======== Nice to hear you got a good jack too. Tell us a little bit about yours. I've gotten into floor jacks lately, and would love to hear its lifting range, manufacturer, weight rating, and any other neat features that come to mind. Did I mention mine's got a padded saddle and the Speedy Lift feature that brings the saddle up to the chassis in a single pull-down of the lever. It's swell! Speedy Lift is a registered trademark, so Michelin must think highly of it. I can't say, though, if Michelin owns the trademark. They may just be licensing the technology and/or name.
From: Ray O on 1 Nov 2007 00:44
"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47295175$0$68456$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... > > Ray O wrote: > >> Noises are difficult to identify without hearing them first hand, but >> creaking noises would make ME nervous unless you are lifting from a >> suspension component or axle. > ======== > > Well, I lifted exactly where the manual instructs. The center > front-end lifting point is found just after the protective plastic > cover. The point is in the middle of a really thick beam that spans the > width of the car. > > I only heard the soft, quiet creaking noise for one or two seconds as > the car just began to rise, so I think everything's alright. > > Thanks for that tip about having somebody watch over me in case > the unthinkable happens and the jack stands fail. I can't tell you > how nervous I was going underneath the car today, but I did > it. I just hope this isn't how I buy the farm. Yow! You really > place your life in your hands when you go underneath the car. > I didn't realize how much so until today. > > Are there things for which you, personally, spend a lot of time under > the car? If yes, what? Oil changes must not require long stays > underneath the vehicle, and rotating tires doesn't require one to go > underneath. I don't really spend much time under cars other than oil changes any more because I haven't had to. The last time I spent more than 5 minutes under the car was to change replace a power steering cooling line on a friend of a friend's '94 Bonneville and that took a long time because I replaced it with an aftermarket part. The little old lady who owned the car didn't have the money to fix the car so I footed the bill for parts, and I didn't feel like spending over $500 for an OEM power steering cooler on someone else's 13 year old car. > By the way, I took another look at that '08 Camry Solara SLE on display > at Sam's Club. It has the 2AZ engine, which is the same as > my '06 Camry LE. Yet the oil filler cap of the Solara says it can take > 5w-*20* and 0w-20 oil, which is different than the 5w-*30* that the '06 > Camry takes. > > I wouldn't put a 20-weight oil in my car, but, like I've said before, > I would possibly consider a 0w-30 in place of the customary 5w-30. > What do you think is going on? If 5w-*20* is okay for the 2AZ engine > in the '08 Solara, why wouldn't it be okay in the same 2AZ engine in > the '06 Camry? > 5W-20 is probably OK to you in your car, but rather than obsess about it and start a long thread about something where we will never know a definitive answer and waste everyone's time, I'd just stick to what the factory said to use. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |