From: Built_Well on

Yesterday, I went to an Ace hardware store called Westlake's and
bought some high-quality turbine oil called Zoom Spout. Thanks
to Scott Dorsey for recommending this oil to lube the nooks and
crannies of the Michelin floor jack. This turbine oil was hard
to find and I only found it because Scott mentioned Ace hardware.
3-in-1 oil is everywhere, but turbine oil was only at Ace, not
even Harbor Freight.

While at Ace, I also picked up some 220-grit sandpaper and
indoor/outdoor enamel paint to fix up the small rust spots on
the floor jack. The Sam's Club Michelin floor jack is
wonderful, works awesome, and has lots of great features, but
I really wasn't expecting a handful of small rust spots. Anyway,
I'll take care of that jack because it'll take care of me.
I'm trusting that jack with my life, after all.

I went back to Harbor Freight to play with the 5 or 6 floor jacks
they have on display. Not even their aluminum jacks work as
well and as smoothly as this Michelin jack from Sam's Club.
I actually think the Michelin jack is made by Shinn Fu America
(must be a Chinese company), because Shinn Fu appears in very
small print in the manual. Michelin musta paid an advertising
fee to get its name and logo emblazoned on this fine jack.
Everybody knows Bibendum, the Michelin Tyre Man! He's the
buff version of the Pillsbury dough boy.

The convenience of the jack's Speedy Lift feature really can't
be overstated. None of the jacks at Harbor Freight had this.
Ray O, I'm wondering if your old but reliable pro-grade
floor jack that you bought from a buddy has the Speedy Lift
feature, which brings the saddle up to the chassis in one stroke?
"They don't make things like they used to" is often true, but
I wonder if Speedy Lift was around at the time your jack was made.
Your jack is probably built better than mine, but I doubt it
has Speedy Lift ;-)

I wasn't able to find the hydraulic jack oil recommended by
the manual anywhere. Everybody's got a generic hydraulic oil
and the Snap brand, but I couldn't find the Mobil DTE 13M
mentioned in the manual anywhere, or the
synthetic Pentosin/Pentosyn CHF 11S recommended by Steve W.
From: Mark A on
"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47307693$0$68470$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
> Ray O, I'm wondering if your old but reliable pro-grade
> floor jack that you bought from a buddy has the Speedy Lift
> feature, which brings the saddle up to the chassis in one stroke?
> "They don't make things like they used to" is often true, but
> I wonder if Speedy Lift was around at the time your jack was made.
> Your jack is probably built better than mine, but I doubt it
> has Speedy Lift ;-)

I am sure that once Ray realizes that his jack does not have this "Speedy
Lift" feature, he will commit suicide. This will be on your conscience.


From: Built_Well on

Last time I said Michelin probably paid Shinn Fu America
an advertising fee to advertise on the jack. It's probably
the other way around. Michelin probably commissioned Shinn Fu
to make the jack. When I visit St. Louis soon, I'll stop
in at Costco to see what they have jack-wise.

Yesterday, I happened to see the owner's manual of
a '06 V6 Hyundai Sonata with alloy rims. The manual
allows both 5w-20 and 5w-30. The oil filler cap, itself,
has 5w-20 written on it.

While he was car shopping, the owner of the '06 Hyundai Sonata
couldn't make up his mind between the Sonata with 35,000 miles
on it or a Camry with 65,000 miles on it. He said the Camry
was more expensive even though it had 30-thousand more
miles on it, so he went with the Sonata.

From: Scott Dorsey on
In article <47307693$0$68470$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com>,
Built_Well <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I wasn't able to find the hydraulic jack oil recommended by
>the manual anywhere. Everybody's got a generic hydraulic oil
>and the Snap brand, but I couldn't find the Mobil DTE 13M
>mentioned in the manual anywhere, or the
>synthetic Pentosin/Pentosyn CHF 11S recommended by Steve W.

Try a shop that deals with older European cars for the Pentosyn. It is
good stuff.

For the Mobil DTE 13M, you're probably going to want to go to an industrial
lubricants dealer rather than an auto parts dealer. Royal Purple Syndraulic
oil is what we use at work for big jacks. Also Castrol Aero 40, which I
think gets used because it's a lowest bid item.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
From: Bruce L. Bergman on
On 6 Nov 2007 12:05:56 -0500, kludge(a)panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>In article <47307693$0$68470$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com>,
>Built_Well <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>>I wasn't able to find the hydraulic jack oil recommended by
>>the manual anywhere. Everybody's got a generic hydraulic oil
>>and the Snap brand, but I couldn't find the Mobil DTE 13M
>>mentioned in the manual anywhere, or the
>>synthetic Pentosin/Pentosyn CHF 11S recommended by Steve W.
>
>Try a shop that deals with older European cars for the Pentosyn. It is
>good stuff.
>
>For the Mobil DTE 13M, you're probably going to want to go to an industrial
>lubricants dealer rather than an auto parts dealer. Royal Purple Syndraulic
>oil is what we use at work for big jacks. Also Castrol Aero 40, which I
>think gets used because it's a lowest bid item.

Mobil DTE 24 hydraulic oil (ISO 32 SAE 10W SSU 165 @100F) is
available on the Web at McMaster-Carr www.mcmaster.com 2158K11 $16.65
per gallon. A bit less if you get a five gallon bucket or six
one-gallon case, but unless you're running a jack rebuild shop...

Can't find a reference for DTE 13M. Check to see if the weight is
right, they supercede old product numbers all the time.

The generic jack oil from Snap should work fine, your jack is just
lifting cars, not breaking 10 seconds in the quarter-mile...

--<< Bruce >>--