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From: Steve B. on 1 Nov 2007 01:03
> Thanks for that tip about having somebody watch over me in case
> the unthinkable happens and the jack stands fail. I can't tell you
> how nervous I was going underneath the car today, but I did
> it. I just hope this isn't how I buy the farm. Yow! You really
> place your life in your hands when you go underneath the car.
> I didn't realize how much so until today.


Having someone around is good advice. You should also give the car a
good shake before you go under it. If it is going to fall better it
fall while you are shaking from above than shaking from below.

Personally I won't go under a car with only a jack stand holding it
up. I either have the jack and a jack stand holding or I put a tire
under there too. Even then I don't like to be under there and get my
business done as quick as I can to get back out from under it.

Steve B.
From: Built_Well on 1 Nov 2007 02:31

Daniel W. Rouse Jr. wrote:

> For automatic transmission vehicles, Park should be sufficient to lock the
> front wheels from turning, parking brake should be sufficient to lock the
> rear wheels from turning.
========

I had been really busy the past 4 days, and so didn't have much time to
post.

However, when some free time finally opened up yesterday, the first
thing I did was get the floor jack from Sam's and lift the car onto
stands.

Daniel, I can say that placing the drive selector lever in Park in an
automatic transmission car was /not/ sufficient to keep the front wheels
from turning. They turned quite freely, in both forwards and backwards
directions while the car was in the air.
From: Noozer on 1 Nov 2007 02:35

> Daniel, I can say that placing the drive selector lever in Park in an
> automatic transmission car was /not/ sufficient to keep the front wheels
> from turning. They turned quite freely, in both forwards and backwards
> directions while the car was in the air.

You were able to turn them both at the same time, in the same direction?


From: Daniel W. Rouse Jr. on 1 Nov 2007 04:05
"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Daniel W. Rouse Jr. wrote:
>
> > For automatic transmission vehicles, Park should be sufficient to lock
the
> > front wheels from turning, parking brake should be sufficient to lock
the
> > rear wheels from turning.
> ========
>
> I had been really busy the past 4 days, and so didn't have much time to
> post.
>
> However, when some free time finally opened up yesterday, the first
> thing I did was get the floor jack from Sam's and lift the car onto
> stands.
>
> Daniel, I can say that placing the drive selector lever in Park in an
> automatic transmission car was /not/ sufficient to keep the front wheels
> from turning. They turned quite freely, in both forwards and backwards
> directions while the car was in the air.

In my experience, Park should hold the front wheels relatively stationary.
This has been the case when I have had to remove and reinstall wheels on
Chevrolet, Buick, and Nissan vehicles. (And, I realize that two of the
crossposted groups are Toyota groups, but this has also been crossposted to
rec.autos.tech which is an all makes group.)

There may be a small amount of back and forth movement when some amount of
torque is applied with the wheel lug nuts while the wheel is raised above
the ground, but the motion should be very slight at most, and should reach a
definite stopping point very soon.


From: Scott in Florida on 1 Nov 2007 10:01
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:25:53 -0500, Built_Well
<built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>Scott in Florida wrote:
>
>> I finally got a decent jack and it makes a world of difference
>> compared to using the car's jack.
>========
>
>Nice to hear you got a good jack too. Tell us a little bit about
>yours. I've gotten into floor jacks lately, and would love to
>hear its lifting range, manufacturer, weight rating, and any
>other neat features that come to mind.
>
>Did I mention mine's got a padded saddle and the Speedy Lift
>feature that brings the saddle up to the chassis in a single
>pull-down of the lever. It's swell! Speedy Lift is a registered
>trademark, so Michelin must think highly of it. I can't say,
>though, if Michelin owns the trademark. They may just be
>licensing the technology and/or name.
>
>
It's red...LOL

It works.

--
Scott in Florida




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