From: Scott in Florida on
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:31:44 -1000, dsi1 <dsi1(a)spamworld.com> wrote:

>Tegger wrote:
>> Built_Well <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:4744aa9e$0$68444$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com:
>>
>>> Wassum was
>>> underneath a black, four-door model when the two scissor jacks holding
>>> up the car failed and it collapsed on top of him, leaving only his
>>> feet visible.
>>>
>>
>>
>> This is why they tell you to use jack stands. And to make sure the stands
>> are on solid ground.
>>
>> Safety is not some deep dark secret, it's just common sense.
>>
>
>He probably used the tools available to him at the time and
>unfortunately, nobody left jackstands laying around that day. I'm not
>quite as gutsy a fellow to be willing to lay under a car held up with 2
>jacks, but I might be game if there were a few tires or bricks under
>there as backup. I'll bet he could a found a few to those in a junkyard. :-)
>
>david

I bet he does too....LOL

Next time......

--
Scott in Florida




From: dsi1 on
Scott in Florida wrote:

>> He probably used the tools available to him at the time and
>> unfortunately, nobody left jackstands laying around that day. I'm not
>> quite as gutsy a fellow to be willing to lay under a car held up with 2
>> jacks, but I might be game if there were a few tires or bricks under
>> there as backup. I'll bet he could a found a few to those in a junkyard. :-)
>>
>> david
>
> I bet he does too....LOL
>
> Next time......
>

Having a car fall on ya might just cure you of there being a next time. :-)

OTOH, being able to get under a car would probably hold many
advantageous for a repair-tech, in which case, it would be best to get
back on the horse as soon as possible - in this case, it would be a
matter of getting back UNDER the horse... :-)
From: Scott in Florida on
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:06:17 -1000, dsi1 <dsi1(a)spamworld.com> wrote:

>Scott in Florida wrote:
>
>>> He probably used the tools available to him at the time and
>>> unfortunately, nobody left jackstands laying around that day. I'm not
>>> quite as gutsy a fellow to be willing to lay under a car held up with 2
>>> jacks, but I might be game if there were a few tires or bricks under
>>> there as backup. I'll bet he could a found a few to those in a junkyard. :-)
>>>
>>> david
>>
>> I bet he does too....LOL
>>
>> Next time......
>>
>
>Having a car fall on ya might just cure you of there being a next time. :-)
>
>OTOH, being able to get under a car would probably hold many
>advantageous for a repair-tech, in which case, it would be best to get
>back on the horse as soon as possible - in this case, it would be a
>matter of getting back UNDER the horse... :-)

<g>

--
Scott in Florida




From: Built_Well on

I was at Super Walmart yesterday picking up a few things.
I don't like regular Walmarts, but Super Walmarts are
a totally different story. If you've never shopped at
a Super Walmart, you've never shopped at Walmart.

Anyway, I happened to see 2 auto techs using torque
wrenches on an '05 or '06 Camry. The techs were following
each other. I asked them about this. They said it's
Walmart's policy to have two different people torque
each wheel's lug nuts to final torque. And after
they do that, one drives the car in the back lot doing
one or two figure-8's, and then uses a torque wrench for
the /third/ time to torque the wheels.

I asked why Walmart is so meticulous. The tech said
it was for legal purposes to make sure a wheel doesn't
fly off. I wonder if Walmart got sued once?

The fellas first used a torque stick attached to an
impact/air wrench, then torqued the wheels 3 separate
times by 2 different people using torque wrenches.
And of course, the car was driven in a figure-8 before
the third and final torquing. That's commitment!

From: Built_Well on

I wrote:

> I was at Super Walmart yesterday picking up a few things.
> I don't like regular Walmarts, but Super Walmarts are
> a totally different story. If you've never shopped at
> a Super Walmart, you've never shopped at Walmart.
>
> Anyway, I happened to see 2 auto techs using torque
> wrenches on an '05 or '06 Camry. The techs were following
> each other. I asked them about this. They said it's
> Walmart's policy to have two different people torque
> each wheel's lug nuts to final torque. And after
> they do that, one drives the car in the back lot doing
> one or two figure-8's, and then uses a torque wrench for
> the /third/ time to torque the wheels.
>
> I asked why Walmart is so meticulous. The tech said
> it was for legal purposes to make sure a wheel doesn't
> fly off. I wonder if Walmart got sued once?
>
> The fellas first used a torque stick attached to an
> impact/air wrench, then torqued the wheels 3 separate
> times by 2 different people using torque wrenches.
> And of course, the car was driven in a figure-8 before
> the third and final torquing. That's commitment!
========

As I've said before, my dealer didn't use a
torque wrench even once. I can't say he used a
regular ole pneumatic air wrench with torque
stick because the tool my dealer's tech was using
did not look like a drill at all. Instead it looked
like a stainless steel ratchet with a possible
torque stick attached to it. It was automatic,
but I'm guessing it worked on electricity instead
of air/pneumatically.

Do those tools have a special name? Can they
actually be as good as torque wrenches?
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