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From: Ray O on 4 Nov 2007 20:19 <nm5k(a)wt.net> wrote in message news:1194224934.063229.175860(a)v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 4, 4:49 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote: > >> >> I guess I'm a little lax when it comes to tightening fasteners! I >> generally >> only use one on lug nuts and head bolts. >> -- > > I'm about the same way. About the only time I ever whip one > out is for something fairly critical like head bolts, or crankshaft > bolts, etc. I never use em for lug nuts. My arm, hand etc acts > as a pseudo torque wrench for non critical stuff. :/ > I don't get them *too* tight either.. One of my gripes is tightning > nuts and bolts so tight that they snap off or deform the next time > someone tries to loosen them.. > But on the other hand, in about 35 years of tightening lug nuts > with no torque wrench, I've never had one come loose yet. > But as far as head bolts, etc, I would never tighten those without > a torque wrench. Those are fairly critical. > MK > I never used to use a torque wrench for lug nuts, but in these politically correct days, I've started using one in the past year. ;-) -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: rantonrave on 4 Nov 2007 23:31 Built_Well wrote: >Ray O wrote: > >>Tighten the drain plug until it doesn't leak - about 1/4 to 1/2 turn after >>the bolt head contacts the oil pan. >======== > >So only a 1/4 or 1/2 turn after the drain plug's bolt head contacts the >oil pan will amount to 18 foot pounds? > 1/2 turn past contact is probably way too tight for a pan bolt, unless the bolt uses a rubber gasket, but most bolt gaskets are copper or hard nylon, because gasketed spark plugs are tightened to 1/4 turn past contact, which is only 15 ft.-lbs.
From: Ray O on 5 Nov 2007 01:11 <rantonrave(a)mail.com> wrote in message news:1194237074.653199.225680(a)v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com... > > Built_Well wrote: >>Ray O wrote: >> >>>Tighten the drain plug until it doesn't leak - about 1/4 to 1/2 turn >>>after >>>the bolt head contacts the oil pan. >>======== >> >>So only a 1/4 or 1/2 turn after the drain plug's bolt head contacts the >>oil pan will amount to 18 foot pounds? >> > 1/2 turn past contact is probably way too tight for a pan bolt, unless > the bolt uses a rubber gasket, but most bolt gaskets are copper or > hard nylon, because gasketed spark plugs are tightened to 1/4 turn > past contact, which is only 15 ft.-lbs. > Toyota uses a fiber gasket which has some give, which is why I said "1/4 to 1/2 turn" and not 1/4 *or* 1/2. Your clarification is helpful to the OP, who probably has more detailed information on how to do an oil change than anyone who has never attempted one! -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Mike Romain on 5 Nov 2007 10:31 rantonrave(a)mail.com wrote: > Built_Well wrote: >> Ray O wrote: >> >>> Tighten the drain plug until it doesn't leak - about 1/4 to 1/2 turn after >>> the bolt head contacts the oil pan. >> ======== >> >> So only a 1/4 or 1/2 turn after the drain plug's bolt head contacts the >> oil pan will amount to 18 foot pounds? >> > 1/2 turn past contact is probably way too tight for a pan bolt, unless > the bolt uses a rubber gasket, but most bolt gaskets are copper or > hard nylon, because gasketed spark plugs are tightened to 1/4 turn > past contact, which is only 15 ft.-lbs. > If you go a half turn on most with the plastic washer, you will strip them. Even a full quarter turn is iffy unless you have a new copper crush washer.... Oil pan drain bolts strip so easily all the parts stores carry oversized self tappers for the 'hopeful' repair vs replacing the oil pan. Use a torque wrench. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame in the works for '08
From: Tegger on 5 Nov 2007 18:01
Comboverfish <comboverfish(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:1194213353.020013.14450 @y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com: > On Nov 3, 8:36 pm, Tegger <teg...(a)tegger.c0m> wrote: >> aarcuda69062 <nonel...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:nonelson- >> A3B57E.19115703112...(a)news.chi.sbcglobal.net: >> >> > In article <Xns99DDBE9B9B548teg...(a)207.14.116.130>, >> > Tegger <teg...(a)tegger.c0m> wrote: >> >> >> You don't need to be >> >> the Bionic Woman (or Man) to apply 18 ft-lbs to a fastener. >> >> > Without a wrench? I'd bet you can't do it. ;-) >> >> I do it with my teeth. I have Bionic teeth. >> >> >> > > So.... you're Julia Roberts? > As part of my bionic rebuilding, they used DNA from a '48 Buick. -- Tegger |