From: Mike Romain on
You seem intent on living dangerously.

The person who wrote the 'book' is a fool by recommending antiseize on
threads that are supposed to be torqued on 'dry' unless otherwise stated
'clearly' in the owners manual different.

We have already beaten the 4 jackstands to death. Not 'your' death yet
though....

Where should we send the flowers or would your estate prefer a donation
to a charity?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...

Built_Well wrote:
> Here's the procedure for rotating tires recommended by the
> book "Auto Upkeep - Basic Car Care":
<snip>
From: Mike Romain on
Bruce L. Bergman wrote:

> Trust me, if the lugs do get loose you'll feel a problem long before
> it gets bad enough to where the wheel will fall off the car.
>

TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!!!

I have had a shop not tighten the nuts correctly or had "a failure in
their impact gun" TWICE in my life.

Both times I lost wheel on the highway at speed and thankfully lived to
tell about it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
From: Mike Romain on
Nobody Important wrote:
> Why do you only tighten the lug nuts finger-tight while the car is in
> the air, and wait until it is lowered to tighten them to their final
> torque? I always tighten them to their final torques (in a star
> pattern) while the car is in the air, and I know that when the car is on
> the lift at the service centre, they do the same.

Because if you are on 4 jackstands like the OP insists on doing and put
torque on the nuts, the odd are 'really' high the car will not be on
those stands any longer...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
From: Built_Well on
Tegger wrote:

> I change the car's oil ever two months
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Tegger, why do you change your car's oil so often, every
2 months? Are you using conventional oil instead of
synthetic? Or are you just traveling 5,000 miles every
2 months?

From: Built_Well on
Mike Romain wrote:
> You seem intent on living dangerously.
>
> The person who wrote the 'book' is a fool by recommending antiseize on
> threads that are supposed to be torqued on dry unless otherwise stated
> clearly in the owners manual different.
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Mike Romain, you are now playing rhetorical games like Mike A.
I pointed out that "Auto Upkeep" recommends using anti-seize
on the wheel bolt threads, but that my Camry manual does not
mention the use of anti-seize, so I won't use any (even though
Ray_O has mentioned using it between the hub and
mounting surface of the inner wheel).

Mike Romain, you, however, are /not/ following standard procedure
by using only one stand in the rear end of the car and the jack
in the front end when rotating tires. Correct procedure is to
always use stands in pairs, and not to have just one side of the
car (the left or right side) in the air. It's okay to have one
end of the car (the front end or the rear end) in the air, but not
okay to have just one side of the car in the air (the left or the
right side).

You're also using the jack to support the vehicle.

You're violating not one, but three rules of safe tire rotating
procedure. Three.