From: Built_Well on 23 Oct 2007 22:47
Mark A wrote:
> [some things]
I don't accept your explanation. For one thing, you
were incredibly rude a few weeks ago. Secondly, your
explanation isn't adequate.
From: Ray O on 23 Oct 2007 22:47
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Ray O wrote:
>> I don't like the feel of Stanley or Craftsman screwdrivers in my hand -
>> they are hard to grip and result in blisters after long use, while the
>> blades on my Snap-On and Mac screwdrivers are still in perfect shape.
>> The walls on cheap sockets are much thicker, making them difficult to use
>> in tight spaces, they don't grip bolt heads as well as a good 6 point
>> socket, the chrome finish chips off, and I've split several cheap
>> sockets. My fine-tooth Snap-on ratchets work much more smoothly,
>> especially when starting bolts, and the fine teeth allow better
>> back-and-forth motions when working in tight spaces.
> For weekend and NASCAR mechanics, Craftsman, Blackhawk, SK, etc., are good
> enough most of the time. They're cheap enough and get the job done. They
> usually have a life-time warranty.
No argument from me there!
> When I was taking apart engines in high and college for my dad, who
> rebuilt engines, I used mostly SK tools. They made high impact sockets for
> the air ratchets that almost never failed. And the regular sockets and
> stuff were good enough for what I needed. And dad was an SK dealer, so
> getting replacement tools wasn't a big deal.
I forgot about SK tools - they seem to be pretty decent, along with Proto
(are they still around?).
> For professional mechanics, Mac and Snap-On are even cheaper. They let
> the mechanic work faster. And the mechanic doesn't have to return the
> tools for new ones under warranty. Time is money. Mac and Snap-On let the
> mechanic spend his/her time working on vehicles, not replacing tools.
> Saves money in the long run.
>> For automotive applications, Snap-On, Mac, and Matco are what most pros
>> use. Plumbers seem to prefer Rigid tools, and electricians seem to
>> prefer Klein and Greenlee. Good tools make the work go more smoothly and
>> fit in the hand better.
> I am curious how good the new Colbalt Tools for Home Depot are.
I am too, although I think Cobalt is Lowe's house brand. Some seem to be
decent, I wouldn't be surprised if they are the same supplier as Craftsman
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From: Ray O on 23 Oct 2007 22:50
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message
>For professional mechanics, Mac and Snap-On are even cheaper. They let
>>the mechanic work faster. And the mechanic doesn't have to return the
>>tools for new ones under warranty. Time is money. Mac and Snap-On let
>>the mechanic spend his/her time working on vehicles, not replacing
>>tools. Saves money in the long run.
> For the most part this is try, but WHY don't either one of these guys
> make small box wrenches with really long handles? Why do I have to go
> to the airplane tool guys (which charge a LOT more than Mac and Snap-On)
> for such things? Also, the Snap-On flexible socket wrenches are kind of
> poorly made compared with the German ones.
I'm not sure how long of a handle you ar looking for, but my Craftsman
long-handled combination wrenches work well, and they are polished like
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From: Mark A on 23 Oct 2007 23:07
"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> I don't accept your explanation. For one thing, you
> were incredibly rude a few weeks ago. Secondly, your
> explanation isn't adequate.
The fact that you don't understand my post does not mean I am rude.
Secondly, whether or not I am rude, has nothing to do with the adequacy of
my answer. BTW, my answer is correct, despite you inability understand it
(this time I will be rude).
From: Bruce L. Bergman on 24 Oct 2007 02:07
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:58:07 -0500, Built_Well
>Forget answering the question about recalibrating torque wrenches.
>I just read Tegger's informative FAQ on torquers. $75 to re-calibrate
>one! Like Tegger, I'll just buy a new one.
>Tegger, a lot of people have spun loose that model 44595 from Sears.
>So I don't think it's your fault for damaging your original.
>Read the reviews for that wrench at sears.com. Whole bunch of folks
>complaining about that torquer.
The only people who recalibrate tools like that are doing things
like Aircraft 'Airframe & Powerplant' repair, where all test equipment
and tools have to carry traceable metrology tags to prove they work.
And they start off with the more expensive wrenches that come with a
factory metrology certificate to cover the first inspection period.
They aren't buying the $20 wrenches at Harbor Freight.
This explains one of the reasons why it costs so much more to get an
aircraft engine fixed, they have to figure that $75 fee per torque
wrench (and they will have 4 or 5 of them for different torque values)
every two or three years (as needed) into their overhead.
And better yet, they have to have at least one extra set of torque
wrenches to keep working with while one set is being sent out...
--<< Bruce >>--