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From: Mike Hunter on 28 Nov 2008 14:56 I find it strange that any engine that consumes four quarts of oil 5,000 miles would even start LOL "jim" <".sjedgingN0sp"@m(a)mwt.net> wrote in message news:1227899786_204(a)isp.n... > > > SMS wrote: >> >> jim wrote: >> >>The only time I recall it being used on a relatively modern car >> was on one vehicle that was a notorious oil burner, and 3000 mile >> changes were because so many owners never checked their oil and found >> their cars with less than 1 quart of oil left after 5000 miles. ---
From: Nate Nagel on 28 Nov 2008 15:22 huh? that's a quart every 1250 miles. not at all unusual for an older design engine with a few miles on it. nate Mike Hunter wrote: > I find it strange that any engine that consumes four quarts of oil 5,000 > miles would even start LOL > > "jim" <".sjedgingN0sp"@m(a)mwt.net> wrote in message > news:1227899786_204(a)isp.n... >> >> SMS wrote: >>> jim wrote: >>> > >>> The only time I recall it being used on a relatively modern car >>> was on one vehicle that was a notorious oil burner, and 3000 mile >>> changes were because so many owners never checked their oil and found >>> their cars with less than 1 quart of oil left after 5000 miles. > --- > > -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel
From: jim on 28 Nov 2008 15:24 SMS wrote: Yes, the person doing > 3000 oil changes is ignoring an enormous body of evidences that such > changes are wasteful in both money and resources, No for me it isn't. I have a friend who believes oil requires a several 1000 miles of driving before it reaches it's peak performance value. So after "breaking in" the oil I sell it to him at a modest profit. -jim ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
From: Ray O on 28 Nov 2008 15:27 "Mark A" <someone(a)someone.com> wrote in message news:Z7MXk.1064$YU6.1012(a)bignews8.bellsouth.net... > "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message > news:ggntr1$oth$1(a)news.motzarella.org... >> I use synthetic oil in 2 out of 4 cars. Obviously, I don't have anything >> against synthetic oil since I use it myself. The part I disagree on is >> that using synthetic saves money when following the factory recommended >> oil change intervals. > > Let's face it Ray, you disagree with everything I have ever posted on this > forum, for reasons that have nothing to do with the substance of my posts. > You previously posted that you use synthetic is all 3 or your cars, but > obviously things have changed since then (number of cars has changed, and > number that you synthetic in). > I don't disagree with everything you have ever posted, just when your facts are incorrect or when our opinions differ. I would not have posted that I use synthetic in all three cars because I do not. You can search my previous posts, and if you find where I posted that, I will humbly admit my error in that post. We got a good deal on a '97 Escort in the past year so we're up to four vehicles. The Escort does not get synthetic oil. BTW, I have not singled out your posts to look for errors so please do not take contratictions or corrections personally. I have pointed out errors in posts from Hachiroku, TeGGeR, and several others, and have managed to maintain a cordial relationship with them. They are not offended when I contradict them, and likewise, I am not offended when they or others point out my mistakes. > No one knows for sure how much synthetic oil will save you, if any. You > could recoup some or all of the cost if you sold the car yourself, and > provided receipts that showed you always used synthetic for every oil > change. You might get 1% better gas mileage. You might avoid a repair that > would have otherwise been necessary. It is hard to say. I agree. > > I have more liability insurance than the state requires (hundreds of > thousands more). Do I need that much insurance? Will I save money by > having more insurance? Probably not, but it you never know. I pay a lot > more for the extra liability insurance than I do for the synthetic oil. In > fact, I pay more money for Twinkies every year (which I definitely don't > need) than I pay for synthetic oil. According to Wikipedia, there was $61 > billion USD spent worldwide on bottled water in 2006, and people are > complaining that I am wasting $30 per year on synthetic oil? > > $30 extra per year for synthetic oil is very cheap insurance IMO. > Admittedly, if you only have your car for 3 years and trade it in, or it > goes back to dealer after the lease expires, then maybe it will not pay > off. But debating about that small amount of money is ridiculous IMO. > I also used to pay a lot more for Twinkies than for oil changes (and cars too), but my employer did not reimburse for or issue Twinkies. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: SMS on 28 Nov 2008 15:47
Mike Hunter wrote: > I find it strange that any engine that consumes four quarts of oil 5,000 > miles would even start LOL The engine won't self destruct on 1 quart of oil. My relative was pretty funny when he described these vehicles. Until he had done a couple of these cars he thought that either the oil was leaking out somewhere. > > "jim" <".sjedgingN0sp"@m(a)mwt.net> wrote in message > news:1227899786_204(a)isp.n... >> >> SMS wrote: >>> jim wrote: >>> > >>> The only time I recall it being used on a relatively modern car >>> was on one vehicle that was a notorious oil burner, and 3000 mile >>> changes were because so many owners never checked their oil and found >>> their cars with less than 1 quart of oil left after 5000 miles. > --- > > |