Bias Against Domestic Cars
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From: Mike Hunter on 25 Nov 2009 12:40 Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:k8aPm.24968$kY2.7945(a)newsfe01.iad... > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >> news:4b09c67c$0$22020$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>> You should have know better than to buy an import ;) >>> >>> >> >> Right, the Buick was imported from Canada > > LMAO. I bought one too in 2001, and sold it in 2004. Last GM I will ever > buy. Had transmission issues early on, many bandaid type repairs, > eventually told them to put a new one in as we are getting close to lemon > law - hint - hint. After being jacked around, I vowed it was my last GM.
From: Tom on 25 Nov 2009 13:28 "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message news:4b0d55be$0$1625$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > hls wrote: > > <snip> > >> Might it also be that these types of vehicles, although similar, are not >> identical, >> and that they might actually be viewed differently by the buyer? >> Dealership >> handling of problems and warranty issues can certainly have a major >> impact on >> the degree of satisfaction one might have with the unit. > > It's those things, plus it's the type of buyer that buys say a Corolla > verus a Prizm, and how they take care of the vehicle. Toyota buyers tend > to me more highly educated, higher income, and more likely to follow the > maintenance schedule, which would result in fewer Corolla problems. I hope you don't really believe that. If you do I think your ego and elitist attitude need some adjustment, your blanket statement is beyond believeable sounds like a teenager.
From: Mike Hunter on 25 Nov 2009 13:34 Actually Toyota buyers DO think they are smarter than the average new vehicle buyer. When I was in retail that was one of the things we loved about them, it made is easy for us to get an extra 20% to 30% out of them when we sold them a car than we could get from the buyers in our domestic brand stores LOL "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:hejt04$8ji$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message > news:4b0d55be$0$1625$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >> hls wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>> Might it also be that these types of vehicles, although similar, are not >>> identical, >>> and that they might actually be viewed differently by the buyer? >>> Dealership >>> handling of problems and warranty issues can certainly have a major >>> impact on >>> the degree of satisfaction one might have with the unit. >> >> It's those things, plus it's the type of buyer that buys say a Corolla >> verus a Prizm, and how they take care of the vehicle. Toyota buyers tend >> to me more highly educated, higher income, and more likely to follow the >> maintenance schedule, which would result in fewer Corolla problems. > > I hope you don't really believe that. If you do I think your ego and > elitist attitude need some adjustment, your blanket statement is beyond > believeable sounds like a teenager.
From: SMS on 25 Nov 2009 13:54 Tom wrote: > I hope you don't really believe that. If you do I think your ego and > elitist attitude need some adjustment, your blanket statement is beyond > believeable sounds like a teenager. So you believe that the demographics of a Toyota buyer are the same as the demographics of a Chevrolet buyer? It may well be elitist for a car-buyer to have shunned a Geo/Chevy Prizm in favor of a Toyota Corolla, but the sales figures of each model prove that there had to have been reasons that the Corolla sold so much better than the Prizm. Up until recently, one reason to have chosen a Chevy over a Toyota would have been the wider availability of warranty service, but at least in my area so many Chevy dealers have closed that the Toyota now wins in that regard. The Corolla and Prizm were comparably priced, the Prizm has a lower MSRP, but the Corolla was heavily discounted, often to well below invoice.
From: Ashton Crusher on 25 Nov 2009 19:04
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:03:42 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote: >C. E. White wrote: > >> Of course there are reasons, one is that the survey is faulty, another >> is that the CR survey is basically an opinion poll, not a data >> collection exercise. > >Clearly you've never seen one of the CR surveys if you think it's an >opinion poll. I've seen their surveys back when I subscribed. They are little better then opinion polls. You can say anything you want, you don't document anything, there is no attempt to make the sample statistically representative of anything, they just take the answers from whichever subscribers feel like replying. If you paid $2000 more for your Toyota then for a comparable Chevy you an be sure many of the respondents are going to sugarcoat their experience, after all, they are not going to want to face up to the fact that every Toyota dealership has a big repair shop in the back just like every Chevy dealer does. |