From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:00:48 -0500, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
double secret probation for writing:

>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:39:38 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:50:48 -0500, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>> double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:02 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>>>> double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>>>>>> double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he
>>>>>>>>>>says!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the
>>>>>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of
>>>>>>>> those minutes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck
>>>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for
>>>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and
>>>>>>>sounding like an idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes he did. Many of them do.
>>>>
>>>> The horror when the red herring is turned upon itself.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe he can come up with the reason why using a teleprompter for
>>>> prepared statements is worse than writing your most basic talking
>>>> points on your hand. You know something that should glibly fall from
>>>> your vocal cords as it you had a clue.
>>>
>>>I certainly think that politicians should *at least* be able to remember
>>>their own political stance well enough to spout it without crib notes on
>>>their palms. As for teleprompters; they don't bother me as they are
>>>used (mostly) for prepared speeches, not necessarily written by the
>>>speaker but *hopefully* espousing the speaker's agenda and as such the
>>>teleprompters allow the speaker to ramp up various parts of the speech
>>>for emphasis.
>>
>> They are a huge time saver.
>
>Definitely agreed. I've given speeches but never with a
>teleprompter. I can well imagine how handy they would be.
>
>The expenditure of tiime that would be
>> required to memorize a speech can be used elsewhere on important
>> matters. If all that is necessary is to give the speech accurately, it
>> does not matter.
>
>I agree with that.
>
>> BUT HE USES A TELEPROMPTER!
>>
>> HORRORS!!!
>>
>> <RUN AROUND HAIR ON FIRE>
>>
>> SARAH SAID SO!!!!
>
>I think the witch is nuts.

No, but she does like to con stupid people out of their hard earned
cash.


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From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:03:36 -0400, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
got double secret probation for writing:

>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:52:41 -0600, �n�hw0�f wrote:
>
>> Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for 17
>>>>>> minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction and
>>>>>> syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>> So what is your "cogizent level" today?
>>>>
>>>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks,
>>>> specifically?
>>>
>>> What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use
>>> index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with him.
>>>
>>>
>> Ok, lemme 'splain this to ye one more time...its disingenuous and
>> hypocritical for Palin to critique Obama for using telepropters or notes
>> when she does it herself.
>>
>> Whats sauce for the goose, is also sauce for the gander.
>>
>> Word.
>
>
>Notes are a LOT different from having every word you're going to say
>displayed for you.

Yeah, that means you did not memorize a WHOLE prepared speech.

Palin could not remember her most BASIC talking points.



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From: Sharx35 on


"pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:43:18 +0000, Sharx35 wrote:
>
>> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
>> news:zbudnV-lS8kNdFnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:39:38 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:50:48 -0500, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>>>> double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:02 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>>>>>> double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org>
>>>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>he says!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all
>>>>>>>>>> the YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about
>>>>>>>>>> 10 of those minutes?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck
>>>>>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for
>>>>>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like
>>>>>>>>>and sounding like an idiot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes he did. Many of them do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The horror when the red herring is turned upon itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe he can come up with the reason why using a teleprompter for
>>>>>> prepared statements is worse than writing your most basic talking
>>>>>> points on your hand. You know something that should glibly fall from
>>>>>> your vocal cords as it you had a clue.
>>>>>
>>>>>I certainly think that politicians should *at least* be able to
>>>>>remember their own political stance well enough to spout it without
>>>>>crib notes on their palms. As for teleprompters; they don't bother me
>>>>>as they are used (mostly) for prepared speeches, not necessarily
>>>>>written by the speaker but *hopefully* espousing the speaker's agenda
>>>>>and as such the teleprompters allow the speaker to ramp up various
>>>>>parts of the speech for emphasis.
>>>>
>>>> They are a huge time saver.
>>>
>>> Definitely agreed. I've given speeches but never with a teleprompter.
>>> I can well imagine how handy they would be.
>>>
>>> The expenditure of tiime that would be
>>>> required to memorize a speech can be used elsewhere on important
>>>> matters. If all that is necessary is to give the speech accurately, it
>>>> does not matter.
>>>
>>> I agree with that.
>>>
>>>> BUT HE USES A TELEPROMPTER!
>>>>
>>>> HORRORS!!!
>>>>
>>>> <RUN AROUND HAIR ON FIRE>
>>>>
>>>> SARAH SAID SO!!!!
>>>
>>> I think the witch is nuts.
>>
>> Ah, c'mon, you just envy her effect on any RED-BLOODED male. <vbg>
>
> Why would I wnvy her when I can get that effect without being stupid?
>
> :-)

Well, you ARE sort of special...politics aside. DAMN it, I get all soft/hard
WHATEVER, when I think of you, pan.


From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:16:41 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
writing:

>On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:42:50 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>>>> That happened on more than one occasion. I asked you to cut & paste
>>>> examples of bias from the articles. I also asked you to pretend we were
>>>> in a journalism class and re-write those portions to eliminate the
>>>> bias.
>>>>
>>>> You refused. We know why, don't we?
>>>
>>>Because I told yu to figure it out for yourself. That's why. You
>>>couldn't.
>>>
>>>
>> You do realize the questions are rhetorical because the fact based
>> community know the answer to the question before they ask you.
>
>rada-rada-rada. You don't even know what we're talking about, simpleton.
>
>

Example of Rhetorical Question based upon the questioner knowing the
answer:
If a hachoo plonks and runs away, but didn't really plonk and run
away, then runs away anyway, is he still a coward.

See, cupcake, you do the same thing. You spew your lies and get called
on them. When you get called you refuse to support the words that only
you wrote. Then you get classed as a cowering little fucknozzle whose
nads are in jars on his ex-wives mantels.


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From: Sharx35 on


"pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:44:30 +0000, Sharx35 wrote:
>
>> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
>> news:zbudnV6lS8ljdlnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGqnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:30:40 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>>>>>> double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he
>>>>>>>>>>says!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the
>>>>>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of
>>>>>>>> those minutes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck
>>>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for
>>>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and
>>>>>>>sounding like an idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes he did. Many of them do.
>>>>
>>>> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford,
>>>
>>> Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well, he
>>> kept falling down.
>>>
>>> but when Reagan
>>>> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said, "Well,..."
>>>
>>> He usually didn't even know where he was.
>>>
>>>> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton
>>>> got caught off-guard,
>>>> he...would...pause...after...each...word...
>>>
>>> Maybe for emphasis? I've used that.
>>>
>>> Bush the II? Who could
>>>> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism" (Kind
>>>> of like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to tell with
>>>> GWB, because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the time. There
>>>> were times if you looked really hard, you could even see the
>>>> strings...
>>>
>>> Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the time.
>>>
>>>> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy and
>>>> Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go.
>>>
>>> I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least he
>>> can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do
>>> anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him),
>>> I'll be very happy with him.
>>>
>>>> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd know
>>>> THAT is a real stretch.
>>>
>>> I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012. How
>>> about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race!
>>
>> On THAT note, I'd have to agree! You do NOT get into the governorship of
>> ANY state by being a dummy!
>
> Well, it WAS Alaska, eh?
>
> :-)

Aw, cheap points. Alaska has/had a LOT of resources. Oregon?? Aside from
loads of beautiful scenery which Alaska also has.