From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:hpu3es$4bv$4(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:17:50 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7nd4s5579aptakmo0fji6qb06uh253p36j(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:25:40 -0400, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got
>>> double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for 17
>>>>>>>minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction and
>>>>>>>syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is your "cogizent level" today?
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks,
>>>>> specifically?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Hachoo present red herring to avoid answering question>
>>>>What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use
>>>>index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with him.
>>>>
>>> So, the lie about the sixth grade stuck regardless of what the reporters
>>> that were there said?
>>>
>>> Really? You actually think he used the teleprompter to address 6th
>>> graders? Have you examined that thought even slightly?
>>>
>>> Here is your hint:
>>> The schedule::
>>> 1. Arrival
>>> 2. Prepared remarks about education reform to reporters. 3. Hang out
>>> with 6th graders and take questions.
>>>
>>> So at what point in time do you imagine a teleprompter would be of use?
>>> You believe it is when taking questions from 6th graders.
>>>
>>> Really, 2 minutes and you could have known "teleprompters and 6th
>>> graders" was a lie made up by people who were not there claiming a
>>> picture proved he used the teleprompter to address the 6th graders.
>>>
>>> As for writing on your hand, explain how putting your most basic talking
>>> points on your hand is the same as using a teleprompter to deliver
>>> prepared remarks?
>>>
>>> Note the words "most basic". One was "Tax Cuts". Is there ANY republican
>>> or Democrat that would need to have that talking point written on their
>>> hand when answering questions that had been already screened and
>>> presented to them before they were asked?
>>>
>>> Yes, Palin was answering questions that were pre-screened for her and by
>>> her. And she needed to have her most basic responses written on her
>>> hand. She could not remember that one was "tax cuts". How stupid do you
>>> have to be that the basis for almost every republican proposal, tax
>>> cuts, needed to be written on your hand?
>>>
>>> Obama spoke for 17 minutes to an unscreened question. Palin had to write
>>> "tax cuts" on her hand to answer a question she knew was coming.
>>>
>>> Hilarious thing is you cannot see the difference.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, back to the question you failed to answer: So what is the negative
>>> of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks, specifically?
>>>
>>> (You can keep running, but you cannot hide from the facts).
>>
>>
>> What's hilarious about all this is that the Hack has never attended a
>> prepared speech by ANYONE with a long list of things to discuss. If he
>> had, he wouldn't be complaining about the specific METHOD used by
>> speakers
>> to keep their talking points straight.
>>
>> Here's who I've seen (in person) using notes (so far):
>>
>> - William Westmoreland
>> - Jack Welch
>> - Lee Iacocca
>> - Mario Cuomo
>> - Peter Norton
>> - Dan Bricklin
>> - Alfred Eisenstadt
>> - Philip Roth
>
> You left out Sarah Palin. She writes them on the palm of her hand in order
> to remind her what *speaking* points she wants to make. Not to remind her
> waht to look for on the teleprompter.


Her complete inability to handle her speaking points proves that her hand is
ineffective.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:45:12 -0500, pandora wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:26:51 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he
>>>>>>says!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!>
>>>>
>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>
>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the
>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of
>>>> those minutes?
>>>>
>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck him
>>>> off in the middle of an interview last year.
>>>>
>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for HOURS
>>>> without a teleprompter. But he can't.
>>>
>>> The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and
>>> sounding like an idiot.
>>
>>
>> But he did it without reading.
>
> Perhaps he didn't know how to read? Could be....
>
>> I'm not a Bush fan, and thought he was dumb, but I'm beginning to think
>> he was a genius by comparison.
>
> Then I have great sympathy for you.


And I have great sympathy for the people STILL in "The Trance" of the
empty suit in office.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:12:14 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:26:51 -0400, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got
> double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he
>>>>>>says!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!>
>>>>
>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>
>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the
>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of
>>>> those minutes?
>>>>
>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck him
>>>> off in the middle of an interview last year.
>>>>
>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for HOURS
>>>> without a teleprompter. But he can't.
>>>
>>> The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and
>>> sounding like an idiot.
>>
>>
>>But he did it without reading.
>
> He did everything without reading. Like the National Intelligence Review
> that told him Osama Bin Laden was ggoing to attack the US mainland.
>
>>I'm not a Bush fan, and thought he was dumb, but I'm beginning to think
>>he was a genius by comparison.
>
> Are you claiming Bush did not use a teleprompter or that he was too stupid
> to read from the teleprompter.

Could be...

>
> Simple enough question, go ahead, clarify your statement.
>
> <hachoo will run away>

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:45:54 -0500, pandora wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:28:53 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>
>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and
>>>>sounding like an idiot.
>>>
>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter.
>>
>> Wow. You need to actually listen to your feerless leeder. Without his
>> teleprompter, he's as bad as Bush.
>>
>> And not just an "ah..er.."once in a while. He once answered a question
>> with 10 words and about 2 dozen ah...er..um...
>>
>> Worse than Kennedy, "The Wizard of Uuuhs".
>
> Which Kennedy? JFK sounded okay to me.


JFK was a great man. I mean the "swimmer".

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:17:38 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

>>Worse than Kennedy, "The Wizard of Uuuhs".
>
> Wow, so most of the previous presidents all used rhetorical devices to
> allow themselves to formulate their responses while speaking
> extemporaneously.
>
> HORRORS!!!!!

Um, where did I say that was bad, exactly. Like, note cards or writing on
your hand? OK, fine. Needing a teleprompter everywhere you go? A bit
different.