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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 13 Apr 2010 20:06 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:11:10 -0500, pandora wrote: >> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford, > > Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well, he > kept falling down. LOL! Nah, that was Chevy Chase! ;) > > but when Reagan >> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said, "Well,..." > > He usually didn't even know where he was. > >> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton got >> caught off-guard, >> he...would...pause...after...each...word... > > Maybe for emphasis? I've used that. But when GB I really got stuck, it looked like a Salad Shooter gone mad. > > Bush the II? Who could >> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism" (Kind of >> like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to tell with GWB, >> because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the time. There were >> times if you looked really hard, you could even see the strings... > > Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the time. > >> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy and >> Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go. > > I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least he can > speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do anything > good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him), I'll be very > happy with him. > >> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd know >> THAT is a real stretch. > > I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012. How > about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race! OMG. I used to really like Sarah, but since the 'handlers' got their hooks in her, she has been playing up the cutesy bit a little to much and it's detracted from her, a LOT. Just think: if it hadn't been for her, we might have had McCain.
From: pandora on 13 Apr 2010 22:02 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:43:18 +0000, Sharx35 wrote: > "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message > news:zbudnV-lS8kNdFnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:39:38 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:50:48 -0500, in the land of >>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>> double secret probation for writing: >>> >>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:02 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, in the land of >>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>>>> double secret probation for writing: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of >>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> >>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing >>>>>>>>>>>he says! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all >>>>>>>>> the YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about >>>>>>>>> 10 of those minutes? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck >>>>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for >>>>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like >>>>>>>>and sounding like an idiot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter. >>>>>> >>>>>>Yes he did. Many of them do. >>>>> >>>>> The horror when the red herring is turned upon itself. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe he can come up with the reason why using a teleprompter for >>>>> prepared statements is worse than writing your most basic talking >>>>> points on your hand. You know something that should glibly fall from >>>>> your vocal cords as it you had a clue. >>>> >>>>I certainly think that politicians should *at least* be able to >>>>remember their own political stance well enough to spout it without >>>>crib notes on their palms. As for teleprompters; they don't bother me >>>>as they are used (mostly) for prepared speeches, not necessarily >>>>written by the speaker but *hopefully* espousing the speaker's agenda >>>>and as such the teleprompters allow the speaker to ramp up various >>>>parts of the speech for emphasis. >>> >>> They are a huge time saver. >> >> Definitely agreed. I've given speeches but never with a teleprompter. >> I can well imagine how handy they would be. >> >> The expenditure of tiime that would be >>> required to memorize a speech can be used elsewhere on important >>> matters. If all that is necessary is to give the speech accurately, it >>> does not matter. >> >> I agree with that. >> >>> BUT HE USES A TELEPROMPTER! >>> >>> HORRORS!!! >>> >>> <RUN AROUND HAIR ON FIRE> >>> >>> SARAH SAID SO!!!! >> >> I think the witch is nuts. > > Ah, c'mon, you just envy her effect on any RED-BLOODED male. <vbg> Why would I wnvy her when I can get that effect without being stupid? :-)
From: pandora on 13 Apr 2010 22:03 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:44:30 +0000, Sharx35 wrote: > "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message > news:zbudnV6lS8ljdlnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGqnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:30:40 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, pandora wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of >>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>>>> double secret probation for writing: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he >>>>>>>>>says! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the >>>>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of >>>>>>> those minutes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck >>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for >>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't. >>>>>> >>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and >>>>>>sounding like an idiot. >>>>> >>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter. >>>> >>>> Yes he did. Many of them do. >>> >>> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford, >> >> Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well, he >> kept falling down. >> >> but when Reagan >>> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said, "Well,..." >> >> He usually didn't even know where he was. >> >>> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton >>> got caught off-guard, >>> he...would...pause...after...each...word... >> >> Maybe for emphasis? I've used that. >> >> Bush the II? Who could >>> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism" (Kind >>> of like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to tell with >>> GWB, because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the time. There >>> were times if you looked really hard, you could even see the >>> strings... >> >> Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the time. >> >>> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy and >>> Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go. >> >> I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least he >> can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do >> anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him), >> I'll be very happy with him. >> >>> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd know >>> THAT is a real stretch. >> >> I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012. How >> about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race! > > On THAT note, I'd have to agree! You do NOT get into the governorship of > ANY state by being a dummy! Well, it WAS Alaska, eh? :-)
From: pandora on 13 Apr 2010 22:05 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:03:36 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:52:41 -0600, §nühw0£f wrote: > >> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>> >>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for >>>>>> 17 minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction >>>>>> and syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>> So what is your "cogizent level" today? >>>> >>>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks, >>>> specifically? >>> >>> What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use >>> index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with >>> him. >>> >>> >> Ok, lemme 'splain this to ye one more time...its disingenuous and >> hypocritical for Palin to critique Obama for using telepropters or >> notes when she does it herself. >> >> Whats sauce for the goose, is also sauce for the gander. >> >> Word. > > > Notes are a LOT different from having every word you're going to say > displayed for you. And a prepared speech is different from answering a question on policy that was already vetted.
From: pandora on 13 Apr 2010 22:08
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:06:55 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:11:10 -0500, pandora wrote: > >>> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford, >> >> Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well, he >> kept falling down. > > LOL! > Nah, that was Chevy Chase! ;) Nah. I specifically remember Ford falling down the stairs of a plane. He was a complete klutz. Hard to believe he ever played football. > >> but when Reagan >>> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said, "Well,..." >> >> He usually didn't even know where he was. >> >>> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton >>> got caught off-guard, >>> he...would...pause...after...each...word... >> >> Maybe for emphasis? I've used that. > > But when GB I really got stuck, it looked like a Salad Shooter gone mad. > Agreed. >> Bush the II? Who could >>> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism" (Kind >>> of like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to tell with >>> GWB, because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the time. There >>> were times if you looked really hard, you could even see the >>> strings... >> >> Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the time. >> >>> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy and >>> Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go. >> >> I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least he >> can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do >> anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him), >> I'll be very happy with him. >> >>> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd know >>> THAT is a real stretch. >> >> I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012. How >> about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race! > > > OMG. I used to really like Sarah, but since the 'handlers' got their > hooks in her, she has been playing up the cutesy bit a little to much > and it's detracted from her, a LOT. I never saw any *attraction* with her to begin with. She might *look* kinda cute (so far), but she's a real ditz. > Just think: if it hadn't been for her, we might have had McCain. NEVER!!!!!!!!! |