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From: Aratzio on 14 Apr 2010 02:09 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:05:31 -0500, in the land of alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing: >On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:03:36 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: > >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:52:41 -0600, �n�hw0�f wrote: >> >>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for >>>>>>> 17 minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction >>>>>>> and syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>> So what is your "cogizent level" today? >>>>> >>>>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks, >>>>> specifically? >>>> >>>> What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use >>>> index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with >>>> him. >>>> >>>> >>> Ok, lemme 'splain this to ye one more time...its disingenuous and >>> hypocritical for Palin to critique Obama for using telepropters or >>> notes when she does it herself. >>> >>> Whats sauce for the goose, is also sauce for the gander. >>> >>> Word. >> >> >> Notes are a LOT different from having every word you're going to say >> displayed for you. > >And a prepared speech is different from answering a question >on policy that was already vetted. They actually cannot allow themselves to see that difference. That would mean recognizing that palin is just like shrub only with a lower IQ. -- Hachiroku explaining his *daddy* issues: Message-ID: <homalb$usi$2(a)news.eternal-september.org> I just keep seeing a pudgy 50 year old with his nethers rattling against his knees... Hachiroku demonstrating his inner Drama Queen (Part 1): "I'm done with you, pal. I thought you were just a troll, but I see you're a stupid troll unable to do any thinking for yourself. Even worse than the usual slobbering Liberals. Bye now!~ Don't bother to write!" Hachiroku demonstrating his inner Drama Queen (part 2): "He's a piece of work. I finally got sick of his sophomoric rantings and plonked him." 9 minutes later in response to a post from me: "I can 'operate Google'. I told you where to look. Have at. You can't. You drink the K00L-Aid to the bottom of the cup. "
From: Cliff on 14 Apr 2010 04:00 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:40:06 -0500, "Chief Egalitarian" <Egal(a)legal_egal.law> wrote: > > >"Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message >news:jtb8s5d6ln688q696oqq1si96f23jjimpa(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:45:45 -0500, "Chief Egalitarian" >> <Egal(a)legal_egal.law> >> wrote: >> >>>Cliff's the dickless wonder. >> >> Lie, run & hide. > >Can't say I blame you. It must have been traumatizing. Your lies always show, they are so simple. Get them from Rush & Faux, do you? -- Cliff
From: pandora on 14 Apr 2010 12:51 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:46:11 +0000, Sharx35 wrote: > "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message > news:zbudnVOlS8nMv1jWnZ2dnUVZ_tGqnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:43:18 +0000, Sharx35 wrote: >> >>> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message >>> news:zbudnV-lS8kNdFnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... >>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:39:38 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:50:48 -0500, in the land of >>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>>>> double secret probation for writing: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:02 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, in the land of >>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> >>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of >>>>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> >>>>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend >>>>>>>>>>>>>thing he says! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all >>>>>>>>>>> the YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for >>>>>>>>>>> about 10 of those minutes? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to >>>>>>>>>>> suck him off in the middle of an interview last year. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk >>>>>>>>>>> for HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like >>>>>>>>>>and sounding like an idiot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Yes he did. Many of them do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The horror when the red herring is turned upon itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe he can come up with the reason why using a teleprompter for >>>>>>> prepared statements is worse than writing your most basic talking >>>>>>> points on your hand. You know something that should glibly fall >>>>>>> from your vocal cords as it you had a clue. >>>>>> >>>>>>I certainly think that politicians should *at least* be able to >>>>>>remember their own political stance well enough to spout it without >>>>>>crib notes on their palms. As for teleprompters; they don't bother >>>>>>me as they are used (mostly) for prepared speeches, not necessarily >>>>>>written by the speaker but *hopefully* espousing the speaker's >>>>>>agenda and as such the teleprompters allow the speaker to ramp up >>>>>>various parts of the speech for emphasis. >>>>> >>>>> They are a huge time saver. >>>> >>>> Definitely agreed. I've given speeches but never with a >>>> teleprompter. I can well imagine how handy they would be. >>>> >>>> The expenditure of tiime that would be >>>>> required to memorize a speech can be used elsewhere on important >>>>> matters. If all that is necessary is to give the speech accurately, >>>>> it does not matter. >>>> >>>> I agree with that. >>>> >>>>> BUT HE USES A TELEPROMPTER! >>>>> >>>>> HORRORS!!! >>>>> >>>>> <RUN AROUND HAIR ON FIRE> >>>>> >>>>> SARAH SAID SO!!!! >>>> >>>> I think the witch is nuts. >>> >>> Ah, c'mon, you just envy her effect on any RED-BLOODED male. <vbg> >> >> Why would I wnvy her when I can get that effect without being stupid? >> >> :-) > > Well, you ARE sort of special...politics aside. DAMN it, I get all > soft/hard WHATEVER, when I think of you, pan. Heh.
From: pandora on 14 Apr 2010 12:53 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:47:11 +0000, Sharx35 wrote: > "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message > news:zbudnVKlS8kZv1jWnZ2dnUVZ_tE3AAAA(a)scnresearch.com... >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:44:30 +0000, Sharx35 wrote: >> >>> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message >>> news:zbudnV6lS8ljdlnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGqnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... >>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:30:40 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, pandora wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of >>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> >>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing >>>>>>>>>>>he says! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all >>>>>>>>> the YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about >>>>>>>>> 10 of those minutes? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck >>>>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for >>>>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like >>>>>>>>and sounding like an idiot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes he did. Many of them do. >>>>> >>>>> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford, >>>> >>>> Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well, >>>> he kept falling down. >>>> >>>> but when Reagan >>>>> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said, >>>>> "Well,..." >>>> >>>> He usually didn't even know where he was. >>>> >>>>> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton >>>>> got caught off-guard, >>>>> he...would...pause...after...each...word... >>>> >>>> Maybe for emphasis? I've used that. >>>> >>>> Bush the II? Who could >>>>> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism" >>>>> (Kind of like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to >>>>> tell with GWB, because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the >>>>> time. There were times if you looked really hard, you could even see >>>>> the strings... >>>> >>>> Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the >>>> time. >>>> >>>>> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy >>>>> and Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go. >>>> >>>> I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least >>>> he can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do >>>> anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him), >>>> I'll be very happy with him. >>>> >>>>> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd >>>>> know THAT is a real stretch. >>>> >>>> I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012. >>>> How about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race! >>> >>> On THAT note, I'd have to agree! You do NOT get into the governorship >>> of ANY state by being a dummy! >> >> Well, it WAS Alaska, eh? >> >> :-) > > Aw, cheap points. Alaska has/had a LOT of resources. Oregon?? Aside > from loads of beautiful scenery which Alaska also has. NATURAL resources, sure.
From: pandora on 14 Apr 2010 13:13
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:55:16 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:08:13 -0500, pandora wrote: > >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:06:55 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:11:10 -0500, pandora wrote: >>> >>>>> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford, >>>> >>>> Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well, >>>> he kept falling down. >>> >>> LOL! >>> Nah, that was Chevy Chase! ;) >> >> Nah. I specifically remember Ford falling down the stairs of a plane. >> He was a complete klutz. Hard to believe he ever played football. > > That's ALL you remember him falling down from? It seems at times the man > could barely stand. > > >> >>>> but when Reagan >>>>> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said, >>>>> "Well,..." >>>> >>>> He usually didn't even know where he was. >>>> >>>>> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton >>>>> got caught off-guard, >>>>> he...would...pause...after...each...word... >>>> >>>> Maybe for emphasis? I've used that. >>> >>> But when GB I really got stuck, it looked like a Salad Shooter gone >>> mad. >>> >> Agreed. >> >>>> Bush the II? Who could >>>>> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism" >>>>> (Kind of like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to >>>>> tell with GWB, because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the >>>>> time. There were times if you looked really hard, you could even see >>>>> the strings... >>>> >>>> Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the >>>> time. >>>> >>>>> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy >>>>> and Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go. >>>> >>>> I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least >>>> he can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do >>>> anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him), >>>> I'll be very happy with him. >>>> >>>>> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd >>>>> know THAT is a real stretch. >>>> >>>> I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012. >>>> How about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race! >>> >>> >>> OMG. I used to really like Sarah, but since the 'handlers' got their >>> hooks in her, she has been playing up the cutesy bit a little to much >>> and it's detracted from her, a LOT. >> >> I never saw any *attraction* with her to begin with. She might *look* >> kinda cute (so far), but she's a real ditz. >> >>> Just think: if it hadn't been for her, we might have had McCain. >> >> NEVER!!!!!!!!! > > > Why not? McCain walked across the aisle to the 'enemy' many, many times. > I think it would have been a good compromise for America. > > But, we'll never know... > > I stopped listening to Limbaugh altogether during that period of time. > Up until the nominees were decided, Limbaugh blasted McCain day in and > day out; he's not a real Republican, he sides with the enemy on > important matters, yada, yada, yada. The straw that broke the camels > back came one day after the nomination, when it looked like the > DDemocrats were getting their act together and Obama would be nominated, > that Limbaugh said "WE need to get tough, and WE need to..." Um, > "WE"?!?! He was against McCain both times he ran for the office, and now > it's "WE"? > > That was just too hypocritical for me to bear. I didn't listen to > Limbaugh for over a year after that. > > Of course, now I have a reason to... If you say so. I could never see a reason to listen to that windbag. > You ask Scott, one of the regulars in the Toyota group I talked to himon > the phone, and I said, "I'm willing to give Obama a chance". You have to > remember, I AM from MAssachusetts, after all. > > The "chance" lasted about three weeks...I may be somewhat Moderate, but > not THAT Moderate... Three weeks? That's hardly enough time to even get settled, let alone DO anything constructive. |