From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:05:31 -0500, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
double secret probation for writing:

>On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:03:36 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:52:41 -0600, �n�hw0�f wrote:
>>
>>> Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for
>>>>>>> 17 minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction
>>>>>>> and syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>> So what is your "cogizent level" today?
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks,
>>>>> specifically?
>>>>
>>>> What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use
>>>> index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with
>>>> him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ok, lemme 'splain this to ye one more time...its disingenuous and
>>> hypocritical for Palin to critique Obama for using telepropters or
>>> notes when she does it herself.
>>>
>>> Whats sauce for the goose, is also sauce for the gander.
>>>
>>> Word.
>>
>>
>> Notes are a LOT different from having every word you're going to say
>> displayed for you.
>
>And a prepared speech is different from answering a question
>on policy that was already vetted.

They actually cannot allow themselves to see that difference. That
would mean recognizing that palin is just like shrub only with a lower
IQ.


--

Hachiroku explaining his *daddy* issues:

Message-ID: <homalb$usi$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>

I just keep seeing a pudgy 50 year old with his nethers rattling against
his knees...

Hachiroku demonstrating his inner Drama Queen (Part 1):

"I'm done with you, pal. I thought you were just a troll, but I see you're
a stupid troll unable to do any thinking for yourself. Even worse than the
usual slobbering Liberals.

Bye now!~ Don't bother to write!"

Hachiroku demonstrating his inner Drama Queen (part 2):

"He's a piece of work. I finally got sick of his sophomoric rantings and
plonked him."

9 minutes later in response to a post from me:

"I can 'operate Google'. I told you where to look. Have at. You can't. You
drink the K00L-Aid to the bottom of the cup. "
From: Cliff on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:40:06 -0500, "Chief Egalitarian" <Egal(a)legal_egal.law>
wrote:

>
>
>"Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:jtb8s5d6ln688q696oqq1si96f23jjimpa(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:45:45 -0500, "Chief Egalitarian"
>> <Egal(a)legal_egal.law>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff's the dickless wonder.
>>
>> Lie, run & hide.
>
>Can't say I blame you. It must have been traumatizing.

Your lies always show, they are so simple.
Get them from Rush & Faux, do you?
--
Cliff
From: pandora on
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:46:11 +0000, Sharx35 wrote:

> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
> news:zbudnVOlS8nMv1jWnZ2dnUVZ_tGqnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com...
>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:43:18 +0000, Sharx35 wrote:
>>
>>> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
>>> news:zbudnV-lS8kNdFnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com...
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:39:38 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:50:48 -0500, in the land of
>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>>>>> double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:02 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org>
>>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org>
>>>>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thing he says!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all
>>>>>>>>>>> the YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for
>>>>>>>>>>> about 10 of those minutes?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to
>>>>>>>>>>> suck him off in the middle of an interview last year.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk
>>>>>>>>>>> for HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like
>>>>>>>>>>and sounding like an idiot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes he did. Many of them do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The horror when the red herring is turned upon itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe he can come up with the reason why using a teleprompter for
>>>>>>> prepared statements is worse than writing your most basic talking
>>>>>>> points on your hand. You know something that should glibly fall
>>>>>>> from your vocal cords as it you had a clue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I certainly think that politicians should *at least* be able to
>>>>>>remember their own political stance well enough to spout it without
>>>>>>crib notes on their palms. As for teleprompters; they don't bother
>>>>>>me as they are used (mostly) for prepared speeches, not necessarily
>>>>>>written by the speaker but *hopefully* espousing the speaker's
>>>>>>agenda and as such the teleprompters allow the speaker to ramp up
>>>>>>various parts of the speech for emphasis.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are a huge time saver.
>>>>
>>>> Definitely agreed. I've given speeches but never with a
>>>> teleprompter. I can well imagine how handy they would be.
>>>>
>>>> The expenditure of tiime that would be
>>>>> required to memorize a speech can be used elsewhere on important
>>>>> matters. If all that is necessary is to give the speech accurately,
>>>>> it does not matter.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with that.
>>>>
>>>>> BUT HE USES A TELEPROMPTER!
>>>>>
>>>>> HORRORS!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> <RUN AROUND HAIR ON FIRE>
>>>>>
>>>>> SARAH SAID SO!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I think the witch is nuts.
>>>
>>> Ah, c'mon, you just envy her effect on any RED-BLOODED male. <vbg>
>>
>> Why would I wnvy her when I can get that effect without being stupid?
>>
>> :-)
>
> Well, you ARE sort of special...politics aside. DAMN it, I get all
> soft/hard WHATEVER, when I think of you, pan.

Heh.

From: pandora on
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:47:11 +0000, Sharx35 wrote:

> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
> news:zbudnVKlS8kZv1jWnZ2dnUVZ_tE3AAAA(a)scnresearch.com...
>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:44:30 +0000, Sharx35 wrote:
>>
>>> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
>>> news:zbudnV6lS8ljdlnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGqnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com...
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:30:40 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org>
>>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing
>>>>>>>>>>>he says!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all
>>>>>>>>> the YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about
>>>>>>>>> 10 of those minutes?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck
>>>>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for
>>>>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like
>>>>>>>>and sounding like an idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes he did. Many of them do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford,
>>>>
>>>> Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well,
>>>> he kept falling down.
>>>>
>>>> but when Reagan
>>>>> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said,
>>>>> "Well,..."
>>>>
>>>> He usually didn't even know where he was.
>>>>
>>>>> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton
>>>>> got caught off-guard,
>>>>> he...would...pause...after...each...word...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe for emphasis? I've used that.
>>>>
>>>> Bush the II? Who could
>>>>> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism"
>>>>> (Kind of like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to
>>>>> tell with GWB, because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the
>>>>> time. There were times if you looked really hard, you could even see
>>>>> the strings...
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>>> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy
>>>>> and Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go.
>>>>
>>>> I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least
>>>> he can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do
>>>> anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him),
>>>> I'll be very happy with him.
>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd
>>>>> know THAT is a real stretch.
>>>>
>>>> I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012.
>>>> How about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race!
>>>
>>> On THAT note, I'd have to agree! You do NOT get into the governorship
>>> of ANY state by being a dummy!
>>
>> Well, it WAS Alaska, eh?
>>
>> :-)
>
> Aw, cheap points. Alaska has/had a LOT of resources. Oregon?? Aside
> from loads of beautiful scenery which Alaska also has.

NATURAL resources, sure.
From: pandora on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:55:16 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:08:13 -0500, pandora wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:06:55 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:11:10 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford,
>>>>
>>>> Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well,
>>>> he kept falling down.
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>> Nah, that was Chevy Chase! ;)
>>
>> Nah. I specifically remember Ford falling down the stairs of a plane.
>> He was a complete klutz. Hard to believe he ever played football.
>
> That's ALL you remember him falling down from? It seems at times the man
> could barely stand.
>
>
>>
>>>> but when Reagan
>>>>> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said,
>>>>> "Well,..."
>>>>
>>>> He usually didn't even know where he was.
>>>>
>>>>> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton
>>>>> got caught off-guard,
>>>>> he...would...pause...after...each...word...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe for emphasis? I've used that.
>>>
>>> But when GB I really got stuck, it looked like a Salad Shooter gone
>>> mad.
>>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>>> Bush the II? Who could
>>>>> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism"
>>>>> (Kind of like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to
>>>>> tell with GWB, because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the
>>>>> time. There were times if you looked really hard, you could even see
>>>>> the strings...
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>>> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy
>>>>> and Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go.
>>>>
>>>> I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least
>>>> he can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do
>>>> anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him),
>>>> I'll be very happy with him.
>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd
>>>>> know THAT is a real stretch.
>>>>
>>>> I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012.
>>>> How about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race!
>>>
>>>
>>> OMG. I used to really like Sarah, but since the 'handlers' got their
>>> hooks in her, she has been playing up the cutesy bit a little to much
>>> and it's detracted from her, a LOT.
>>
>> I never saw any *attraction* with her to begin with. She might *look*
>> kinda cute (so far), but she's a real ditz.
>>
>>> Just think: if it hadn't been for her, we might have had McCain.
>>
>> NEVER!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> Why not? McCain walked across the aisle to the 'enemy' many, many times.
> I think it would have been a good compromise for America.
>
> But, we'll never know...
>
> I stopped listening to Limbaugh altogether during that period of time.
> Up until the nominees were decided, Limbaugh blasted McCain day in and
> day out; he's not a real Republican, he sides with the enemy on
> important matters, yada, yada, yada. The straw that broke the camels
> back came one day after the nomination, when it looked like the
> DDemocrats were getting their act together and Obama would be nominated,
> that Limbaugh said "WE need to get tough, and WE need to..." Um,
> "WE"?!?! He was against McCain both times he ran for the office, and now
> it's "WE"?
>
> That was just too hypocritical for me to bear. I didn't listen to
> Limbaugh for over a year after that.
>
> Of course, now I have a reason to...

If you say so. I could never see a reason to listen to that
windbag.

> You ask Scott, one of the regulars in the Toyota group I talked to himon
> the phone, and I said, "I'm willing to give Obama a chance". You have to
> remember, I AM from MAssachusetts, after all.
>
> The "chance" lasted about three weeks...I may be somewhat Moderate, but
> not THAT Moderate...

Three weeks? That's hardly enough time to even get settled, let alone
DO anything constructive.