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From: pandora on 13 Apr 2010 18:00 On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:39:38 -0700, Aratzio wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:50:48 -0500, in the land of > alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got > double secret probation for writing: > >>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:02 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, in the land of >>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>> double secret probation for writing: >>> >>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of >>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>>>> double secret probation for writing: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he >>>>>>>>>says! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the >>>>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of >>>>>>> those minutes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck >>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for >>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't. >>>>>> >>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and >>>>>>sounding like an idiot. >>>>> >>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter. >>>> >>>>Yes he did. Many of them do. >>> >>> The horror when the red herring is turned upon itself. >>> >>> Maybe he can come up with the reason why using a teleprompter for >>> prepared statements is worse than writing your most basic talking >>> points on your hand. You know something that should glibly fall from >>> your vocal cords as it you had a clue. >> >>I certainly think that politicians should *at least* be able to remember >>their own political stance well enough to spout it without crib notes on >>their palms. As for teleprompters; they don't bother me as they are >>used (mostly) for prepared speeches, not necessarily written by the >>speaker but *hopefully* espousing the speaker's agenda and as such the >>teleprompters allow the speaker to ramp up various parts of the speech >>for emphasis. > > They are a huge time saver. Definitely agreed. I've given speeches but never with a teleprompter. I can well imagine how handy they would be. The expenditure of tiime that would be > required to memorize a speech can be used elsewhere on important > matters. If all that is necessary is to give the speech accurately, it > does not matter. I agree with that. > BUT HE USES A TELEPROMPTER! > > HORRORS!!! > > <RUN AROUND HAIR ON FIRE> > > SARAH SAID SO!!!! I think the witch is nuts.
From: pandora on 13 Apr 2010 18:11 On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:30:40 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, pandora wrote: > >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of >>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>> double secret probation for writing: >>> >>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he >>>>>>>says! >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!> >>>>> >>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>> >>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the >>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of >>>>> those minutes? >>>>> >>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck him >>>>> off in the middle of an interview last year. >>>>> >>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for >>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't. >>>> >>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and >>>>sounding like an idiot. >>> >>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter. >> >> Yes he did. Many of them do. > > Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford, Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford well, he kept falling down. but when Reagan > got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said, "Well,..." He usually didn't even know where he was. > When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton got > caught off-guard, > he...would...pause...after...each...word... Maybe for emphasis? I've used that. Bush the II? Who could > figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism" (Kind of > like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to tell with GWB, > because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the time. There were > times if you looked really hard, you could even see the strings... Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the time. > Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy and > Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go. I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least he can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him), I'll be very happy with him. > I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd know > THAT is a real stretch. I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012. How about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race!
From: Sharx35 on 13 Apr 2010 19:43 "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message news:zbudnV-lS8kNdFnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:39:38 -0700, Aratzio wrote: > >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:50:48 -0500, in the land of >> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >> double secret probation for writing: >> >>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:02 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, in the land of >>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>>> double secret probation for writing: >>>> >>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of >>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>>>>> double secret probation for writing: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he >>>>>>>>>>says! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the >>>>>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of >>>>>>>> those minutes? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck >>>>>>>> him off in the middle of an interview last year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for >>>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and >>>>>>>sounding like an idiot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter. >>>>> >>>>>Yes he did. Many of them do. >>>> >>>> The horror when the red herring is turned upon itself. >>>> >>>> Maybe he can come up with the reason why using a teleprompter for >>>> prepared statements is worse than writing your most basic talking >>>> points on your hand. You know something that should glibly fall from >>>> your vocal cords as it you had a clue. >>> >>>I certainly think that politicians should *at least* be able to remember >>>their own political stance well enough to spout it without crib notes on >>>their palms. As for teleprompters; they don't bother me as they are >>>used (mostly) for prepared speeches, not necessarily written by the >>>speaker but *hopefully* espousing the speaker's agenda and as such the >>>teleprompters allow the speaker to ramp up various parts of the speech >>>for emphasis. >> >> They are a huge time saver. > > Definitely agreed. I've given speeches but never with a > teleprompter. I can well imagine how handy they would be. > > The expenditure of tiime that would be >> required to memorize a speech can be used elsewhere on important >> matters. If all that is necessary is to give the speech accurately, it >> does not matter. > > I agree with that. > >> BUT HE USES A TELEPROMPTER! >> >> HORRORS!!! >> >> <RUN AROUND HAIR ON FIRE> >> >> SARAH SAID SO!!!! > > I think the witch is nuts. Ah, c'mon, you just envy her effect on any RED-BLOODED male. <vbg>
From: Sharx35 on 13 Apr 2010 19:44 "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message news:zbudnV6lS8ljdlnWnZ2dnUVZ_tGqnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com... > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:30:40 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, pandora wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of >>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got >>>> double secret probation for writing: >>>> >>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he >>>>>>>>says! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!> >>>>>> >>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the >>>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of >>>>>> those minutes? >>>>>> >>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck him >>>>>> off in the middle of an interview last year. >>>>>> >>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for >>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't. >>>>> >>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and >>>>>sounding like an idiot. >>>> >>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter. >>> >>> Yes he did. Many of them do. >> >> Think of this: I don't remember Nixon, Carter or Ford, > > Nixon "ahhded", Carter had that southern accent ( :-) ), Ford > well, he kept falling down. > > but when Reagan >> got stuck with something he was not prepared for, he said, "Well,..." > > He usually didn't even know where he was. > >> When Bush the First got stuck, the hands started going. When Clinton got >> caught off-guard, >> he...would...pause...after...each...word... > > Maybe for emphasis? I've used that. > > Bush the II? Who could >> figure? Perhaps that could be when he came out with a "Bushism" (Kind of >> like a Spoonerism, but not as intelligent). It's hard to tell with GWB, >> because it seems he was unprepared about 80% of the time. There were >> times if you looked really hard, you could even see the strings... > > Indeed. It seemed to me his brain was off the track most of the time. > >> Obama? As far as I can see, he too is a puppet, with both Pelousy and >> Reid stuffing their hands up as far as they could go. > > I like his speeches. I don't see him as a puppet at all. At least > he can speak and doesn't *sound* like an idiot. If he manages to do > anything good for this country (that is IF the repugs will let him), > I'll be very happy with him. > >> I'd rather have had Hillary in office, and if you knew me, you'd know >> THAT is a real stretch. > > I agreed with Hilary, it wasn't the right time. It may be in 2012. > How about Hilary running against Sarah? Now THAT would be a race! On THAT note, I'd have to agree! You do NOT get into the governorship of ANY state by being a dummy!
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 13 Apr 2010 20:03
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:52:41 -0600, §nühw0£f wrote: > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote: >> >>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for 17 >>>>> minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction and >>>>> syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it. >>> So what is your "cogizent level" today? >>> >>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks, >>> specifically? >> >> What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use >> index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with him. >> >> > Ok, lemme 'splain this to ye one more time...its disingenuous and > hypocritical for Palin to critique Obama for using telepropters or notes > when she does it herself. > > Whats sauce for the goose, is also sauce for the gander. > > Word. Notes are a LOT different from having every word you're going to say displayed for you. |