From: Aratzio on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:17:50 -0400, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "JoeSpareBedroom"
<newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> got double secret probation for writing:

>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>news:7nd4s5579aptakmo0fji6qb06uh253p36j(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:25:40 -0400, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for 17
>>>>>>minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction and
>>>>>>syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>
>>>> So what is your "cogizent level" today?
>>>>
>>>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks,
>>>> specifically?
>>>
>>
>> <Hachoo present red herring to avoid answering question>
>>>What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use
>>>index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with him.
>>>
>> So, the lie about the sixth grade stuck regardless of what the
>> reporters that were there said?
>>
>> Really? You actually think he used the teleprompter to address 6th
>> graders? Have you examined that thought even slightly?
>>
>> Here is your hint:
>> The schedule::
>> 1. Arrival
>> 2. Prepared remarks about education reform to reporters.
>> 3. Hang out with 6th graders and take questions.
>>
>> So at what point in time do you imagine a teleprompter would be of
>> use? You believe it is when taking questions from 6th graders.
>>
>> Really, 2 minutes and you could have known "teleprompters and 6th
>> graders" was a lie made up by people who were not there claiming a
>> picture proved he used the teleprompter to address the 6th graders.
>>
>> As for writing on your hand, explain how putting your most basic
>> talking points on your hand is the same as using a teleprompter to
>> deliver prepared remarks?
>>
>> Note the words "most basic". One was "Tax Cuts". Is there ANY
>> republican or Democrat that would need to have that talking point
>> written on their hand when answering questions that had been already
>> screened and presented to them before they were asked?
>>
>> Yes, Palin was answering questions that were pre-screened for her and
>> by her. And she needed to have her most basic responses written on her
>> hand. She could not remember that one was "tax cuts". How stupid do
>> you have to be that the basis for almost every republican proposal,
>> tax cuts, needed to be written on your hand?
>>
>> Obama spoke for 17 minutes to an unscreened question.
>> Palin had to write "tax cuts" on her hand to answer a question she
>> knew was coming.
>>
>> Hilarious thing is you cannot see the difference.
>>
>>
>> Now, back to the question you failed to answer:
>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks,
>> specifically?
>>
>> (You can keep running, but you cannot hide from the facts).
>
>
>What's hilarious about all this is that the Hack has never attended a
>prepared speech by ANYONE with a long list of things to discuss. If he had,
>he wouldn't be complaining about the specific METHOD used by speakers to
>keep their talking points straight.
>
>Here's who I've seen (in person) using notes (so far):
>
>- William Westmoreland
>- Jack Welch
>- Lee Iacocca
>- Mario Cuomo
>- Peter Norton
>- Dan Bricklin
>- Alfred Eisenstadt
>- Philip Roth
>

It save you the time of having to memorize prepared text. The POTUS is
a busy man and it is a good thing he uses a teleprompter for prepared
text.

Review the text
Read it aloud once or twice
Follow text on teleprompter.

A 20 minute speech is virtually impossible to memorize without a
significant investment in time.

If, like Palin, you want to just blather insane commentary, 2-3
minutes is all you need.


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From: Aratzio on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:45:54 -0500, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
double secret probation for writing:

>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:28:53 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>
>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and
>>>>sounding like an idiot.
>>>
>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter.
>>
>> Wow. You need to actually listen to your feerless leeder. Without his
>> teleprompter, he's as bad as Bush.
>>
>> And not just an "ah..er.."once in a while. He once answered a question
>> with 10 words and about 2 dozen ah...er..um...
>>
>> Worse than Kennedy, "The Wizard of Uuuhs".
>
>Which Kennedy? JFK sounded okay to me.

Kool-aid drinking Kennedybot. He was obviously stupid because he had a
rhetorical vocal tick. Really, it is true. If saying "ah" is stupid,
"uhhh" must be really stupid.

You can always tell someones intelligence by their vocal ticks.

As opposed to needing to write their most basic talking point on their
hand when answering pre-screen questions. That was pure genius.

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I just keep seeing a pudgy 50 year old with his nethers rattling against
his knees...
From: Aratzio on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:50:48 -0500, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
double secret probation for writing:

>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:02 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0500, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>> double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:43:08 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:02:01 -0500, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got
>>>> double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:38:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:46 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>With this empty suited Bambi, you can't believe a damend thing he
>>>>>>>>says!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language <SLAP!>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the Pres talked for 17 whole minutes. Wanna go through all the
>>>>>> YouTubes where he was saying "ah, um, er, ah, er" for about 10 of
>>>>>> those minutes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're as bad as Meredith Viera. I thought she was going to suck him
>>>>>> off in the middle of an interview last year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The man's a Harvard Law graduate. He should be able to talk for
>>>>>> HOURS without a teleprompter. But he can't.
>>>>>
>>>>>The shrub couldn't talk for even 5 minutes without looking like and
>>>>>sounding like an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Nixon used "ah" even when he used his teleprompter.
>>>
>>>Yes he did. Many of them do.
>>
>> The horror when the red herring is turned upon itself.
>>
>> Maybe he can come up with the reason why using a teleprompter for
>> prepared statements is worse than writing your most basic talking points
>> on your hand. You know something that should glibly fall from your vocal
>> cords as it you had a clue.
>
>I certainly think that politicians should *at least* be able to
>remember their own political stance well enough to spout it without
>crib notes on their palms. As for teleprompters; they don't bother
>me as they are used (mostly) for prepared speeches, not necessarily
>written by the speaker but *hopefully* espousing the speaker's agenda
>and as such the teleprompters allow the speaker to ramp up various
>parts of the speech for emphasis.

They are a huge time saver. The expenditure of tiime that would be
required to memorize a speech can be used elsewhere on important
matters. If all that is necessary is to give the speech accurately, it
does not matter.

BUT HE USES A TELEPROMPTER!

HORRORS!!!

<RUN AROUND HAIR ON FIRE>

SARAH SAID SO!!!!


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his knees...
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:17:50 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> news:7nd4s5579aptakmo0fji6qb06uh253p36j(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:25:40 -0400, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got
>> double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for 17
>>>>>>minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction and
>>>>>>syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>
>>>> So what is your "cogizent level" today?
>>>>
>>>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks,
>>>> specifically?
>>>
>>>
>> <Hachoo present red herring to avoid answering question>
>>>What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use
>>>index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with him.
>>>
>> So, the lie about the sixth grade stuck regardless of what the reporters
>> that were there said?
>>
>> Really? You actually think he used the teleprompter to address 6th
>> graders? Have you examined that thought even slightly?
>>
>> Here is your hint:
>> The schedule::
>> 1. Arrival
>> 2. Prepared remarks about education reform to reporters. 3. Hang out
>> with 6th graders and take questions.
>>
>> So at what point in time do you imagine a teleprompter would be of use?
>> You believe it is when taking questions from 6th graders.
>>
>> Really, 2 minutes and you could have known "teleprompters and 6th
>> graders" was a lie made up by people who were not there claiming a
>> picture proved he used the teleprompter to address the 6th graders.
>>
>> As for writing on your hand, explain how putting your most basic talking
>> points on your hand is the same as using a teleprompter to deliver
>> prepared remarks?
>>
>> Note the words "most basic". One was "Tax Cuts". Is there ANY republican
>> or Democrat that would need to have that talking point written on their
>> hand when answering questions that had been already screened and
>> presented to them before they were asked?
>>
>> Yes, Palin was answering questions that were pre-screened for her and by
>> her. And she needed to have her most basic responses written on her
>> hand. She could not remember that one was "tax cuts". How stupid do you
>> have to be that the basis for almost every republican proposal, tax
>> cuts, needed to be written on your hand?
>>
>> Obama spoke for 17 minutes to an unscreened question. Palin had to write
>> "tax cuts" on her hand to answer a question she knew was coming.
>>
>> Hilarious thing is you cannot see the difference.
>>
>>
>> Now, back to the question you failed to answer: So what is the negative
>> of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks, specifically?
>>
>> (You can keep running, but you cannot hide from the facts).
>
>
> What's hilarious about all this is that the Hack has never attended a
> prepared speech by ANYONE with a long list of things to discuss. If he
> had, he wouldn't be complaining about the specific METHOD used by speakers
> to keep their talking points straight.
>
> Here's who I've seen (in person) using notes (so far):
>
> - William Westmoreland
> - Jack Welch
> - Lee Iacocca
> - Mario Cuomo
> - Peter Norton
> - Dan Bricklin
> - Alfred Eisenstadt
> - Philip Roth

You left out Sarah Palin. She writes them on the palm of her hand in order
to remind her what *speaking* points she wants to make. Not to remind her
waht to look for on the teleprompter.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:25:22 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:17:50 -0400, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:7nd4s5579aptakmo0fji6qb06uh253p36j(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:25:40 -0400, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:24:27 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>Yeah, that whole ability to use the English language and speak for
>>>>>>>17 minutes off the cuff with almost perfect pronounciation, diction
>>>>>>>and syntax is clearly evident the teleprompter is his crutch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Coming from someone who clearly doesn't understand it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is your "cogizent level" today?
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is the negative of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks,
>>>>> specifically?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Hachoo present red herring to avoid answering question>
>>>>What's wrong with having your notes in your palm? A lot of people use
>>>>index cards. One has to take a teleprompter to the sixth grade with
>>>>him.
>>>>
>>> So, the lie about the sixth grade stuck regardless of what the
>>> reporters that were there said?
>>>
>>> Really? You actually think he used the teleprompter to address 6th
>>> graders? Have you examined that thought even slightly?
>>>
>>> Here is your hint:
>>> The schedule::
>>> 1. Arrival
>>> 2. Prepared remarks about education reform to reporters. 3. Hang out
>>> with 6th graders and take questions.
>>>
>>> So at what point in time do you imagine a teleprompter would be of use?
>>> You believe it is when taking questions from 6th graders.
>>>
>>> Really, 2 minutes and you could have known "teleprompters and 6th
>>> graders" was a lie made up by people who were not there claiming a
>>> picture proved he used the teleprompter to address the 6th graders.
>>>
>>> As for writing on your hand, explain how putting your most basic
>>> talking points on your hand is the same as using a teleprompter to
>>> deliver prepared remarks?
>>>
>>> Note the words "most basic". One was "Tax Cuts". Is there ANY
>>> republican or Democrat that would need to have that talking point
>>> written on their hand when answering questions that had been already
>>> screened and presented to them before they were asked?
>>>
>>> Yes, Palin was answering questions that were pre-screened for her and
>>> by her. And she needed to have her most basic responses written on her
>>> hand. She could not remember that one was "tax cuts". How stupid do you
>>> have to be that the basis for almost every republican proposal, tax
>>> cuts, needed to be written on your hand?
>>>
>>> Obama spoke for 17 minutes to an unscreened question. Palin had to
>>> write "tax cuts" on her hand to answer a question she knew was coming.
>>>
>>> Hilarious thing is you cannot see the difference.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, back to the question you failed to answer: So what is the negative
>>> of using a teleprompter for prepared remarks, specifically?
>>>
>>> (You can keep running, but you cannot hide from the facts).
>>
>>
>>What's hilarious about all this is that the Hack has never attended a
>>prepared speech by ANYONE with a long list of things to discuss. If he
>>had, he wouldn't be complaining about the specific METHOD used by
>>speakers to keep their talking points straight.
>>
>>Here's who I've seen (in person) using notes (so far):
>>
>>- William Westmoreland
>>- Jack Welch
>>- Lee Iacocca
>>- Mario Cuomo
>>- Peter Norton
>>- Dan Bricklin
>>- Alfred Eisenstadt
>>- Philip Roth
>>
>>
> It save you the time of having to memorize prepared text. The POTUS is a
> busy man and it is a good thing he uses a teleprompter for prepared text.
>
> Review the text
> Read it aloud once or twice
> Follow text on teleprompter.
>
> A 20 minute speech is virtually impossible to memorize without a
> significant investment in time.
>
> If, like Palin, you want to just blather insane commentary, 2-3 minutes is
> all you need.

Oh, Boy ! Joe and Aratzio are agreeing! A NITWIT party!
(Much much more dangerous than a Tea Partry. Tea Partiers seem to have the
ability to think.)

(Stupid groups removed.)