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From: charlesgrozny on 24 Feb 2010 11:04 "Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:w8oG$6EzEUhLFwaI(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <Xns9D288F166D1A7tegger(a)208.90.168.18>, Tegger > <invalid(a)invalid.inv> writes >>From what I've seen, historically this is often more true than not, unless >>the good company is substantially larger than the less-than-good one. > I think that in the marriage between Chrysler and Fiat, it's one of > equals. Both equally poor. > -- > Clive > Isn't that what Fiat stands for? Fix It Again, Tony? Charles Grozny
From: Mike Hunter on 24 Feb 2010 11:08 I suppose I must believe Toyota when it admits they are not blaming drivers but still do not KNOW what is causing their cars to go out of control. They are looking into their micro processors, but have not yet found the problem. If you do a search you will discover Employers were victims of the defective Firestones tires made by the Japanese company, Bridgestone. Explorers that did not have Firestone tires were not effected. There are still thousand of the mid eighties Explores still an the road today that are no longer have a problem because all of the Firestone tires were recalled. "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly(a)my-deja.com> wrote in message news:d9ba9858-1c4b-4328-8875-ded7f04e77ca(a)s36g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > > Mike Hunter wrote: >> >> Do you believe those 34 intended to kill themselves? If it wasn't >> unintended acceleration, then it must have been intended acceleration ;) > > Do you believe those 34 were killed because of faults with their > vehicles, as opposed to faults with their drivers? If not, how do > you explain all the Ford Explorers crashing when their tires failed? >
From: Mike Hunter on 24 Feb 2010 11:09 IF you can stop it when you get where you want to go. ;) "Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:6KOkSnDo5ThLFwJ+(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <pan.2010.02.24.02.57.03.734000(a)e86.GTS>, Hachiroku > <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >>My Corolla was on par (somewhat) with a late 50's Ferrari as far as >>technology, but it had one thing: it WORKED, and quite well at that. > That is what I want from a car, that before locking the front door, I know > the car is going to start and get me to where I want to go reliably. > -- > Clive >
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 24 Feb 2010 11:12 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4b854d03$0$21991$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >I suppose I must believe Toyota when it admits they are not blaming drivers >but still do not KNOW what is causing their cars to go out of control. They >are looking into their micro processors, but have not yet found the >problem. > > If you do a search you will discover Employers were victims of the > defective Firestones tires made by the Japanese company, Bridgestone. > > Explorers that did not have Firestone tires were not effected. There are > still thousand of the mid eighties Explores still an the road today that > are no longer have a problem because all of the Firestone tires were > recalled. Looks like the box wine is flowing at Mike's house.
From: Michael on 24 Feb 2010 11:42
On Feb 23, 7:30 pm, "charlesgrozny" <n5...(a)sprynet.com> wrote: > "Conscience" <nobama@g v.com> wrote in message > > news:hm24f9$j7n$1(a)news.albasani.net... > > > > > On 2010-02-23 18:34:23 -0800, "charlesgrozny" <n5...(a)sprynet.com> said: > > >> "Conscience" <nobama@g v.com> wrote in message > >>news:hm1vl0$s9d$1(a)news.albasani.net... > >>> On 2010-02-23 16:44:44 -0800, Clive <cl...(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> said: > > >>>> In message <hm12mh$91...(a)news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White > >>>> <cewhi...(a)mindspring.com> writes > >>>>> But German > >>>>> electronics...well they suck. > >>>> You're totally uneducated about Europe then. It's the Italian cars > >>>> that > >>>> have very unreliable electrics. Bosch has an enviable name in all > >>>> things electronic and cars are no exception. May-be you're thinking > >>>> about some American factory that is turning out Bosch supplies, over > >>>> there with locally sourced rubbish parts. > > >>> The Brits had Lucas, Prince of Darkness. > > >> Isn't that why the English have warm beer? Lucas also makes > >> refrigerators. > > > Don't knock British ales. Even at room temp, they're better than most of > > the swill you'll find here. > > If most American big beers taste like Budweiser, ANYTHING tastes better than > the swill we've got over here. Considering that most American beer is > German in origin, how the mighty have fallen. . . . I think even rotgut > homemade Russian vodka tastes better. At least you won't feel the taste as > long. > > Charles Grozny. Isn't Budweiser from the Czech Republic? Budvar/Czechvar is quite good. Michael |