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From: charlesgrozny on 23 Feb 2010 22:30 "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message news:hm24f9$j7n$1(a)news.albasani.net... > On 2010-02-23 18:34:23 -0800, "charlesgrozny" <n5hsr(a)sprynet.com> said: > >> >> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >> news:hm1vl0$s9d$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>> On 2010-02-23 16:44:44 -0800, Clive <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> said: >>> >>>> In message <hm12mh$91d$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White >>>> <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> writes >>>>> But German >>>>> electronics...well they suck. >>>> You're totally uneducated about Europe then. It's the Italian cars >>>> that >>>> have very unreliable electrics. Bosch has an enviable name in all >>>> things electronic and cars are no exception. May-be you're thinking >>>> about some American factory that is turning out Bosch supplies, over >>>> there with locally sourced rubbish parts. >>> >>> The Brits had Lucas, Prince of Darkness. >>> >> >> Isn't that why the English have warm beer? Lucas also makes >> refrigerators. > > Don't knock British ales. Even at room temp, they're better than most of > the swill you'll find here. > If most American big beers taste like Budweiser, ANYTHING tastes better than the swill we've got over here. Considering that most American beer is German in origin, how the mighty have fallen. . . . I think even rotgut homemade Russian vodka tastes better. At least you won't feel the taste as long. Charles Grozny.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 23 Feb 2010 23:49 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:35:39 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote: >> Do you even know what a car is? >> >> Like I said. You don't have to respond. But you keep doing so anyway. >> Waste case. But you'll keep running your yap, anyway. >> >> TTFN! > > Right. Just as you will. > You remind me of Mike Hunter, except he doesn't repeat himself so often. > And he seems a bit younger than you. > Might be a wrong impression. But you certainly seem from your posts to > have vast auto experience. Even more than Mike. I really like the ten or > 15 times you've recounted not getting that HHR. Can you tell that story > again? Sure. every time I someone tells me I should have bought American. No problem. I guess you read all 15 times, eh? Good for you. You're not as stupid as you've been coming across. > Almost seems that all your car experience has gifted you with the ability > to actually motormouth. Likewise, I'm sure, buckethead. You sure don't have a lot to say, but just keep on pounding the keys. The best you can do is point out what a 'putz" I am? And how superiorily gifted you are? You have not yet said ONE thing to either add or detract from the original post except to point my 'weaknesses' out to me, and didn't even catch the joke in the original post without having to have it explained to you. Yeah, asshat, motormouth indeed. You have no point whatsoever, except the sharp one at the top of your head, Zippy.
From: Ashton Crusher on 24 Feb 2010 01:44 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:54:30 -0500, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:19:11 -0500, C. E. White wrote: > >>> Just what happened to Daimler and Chrysler, Daimler thought they >>> could boot-strap Chrysler into a maker of reliable cars for the >>> American market, instead Chrysler pulled Daimler down to it's level, >>> now after a messy divorce, Daimler's reliability is seriously in >>> question and they're having to through a lot of money at building >>> reliability and prestige again. >> >> Youa re going to have to explain to me how Chrysler pulled Daimler >> down to it's level. > > >Um, that's pretty much what happened. I don't know how. >It was something like a very good swimmer going out to rescue someone who >was drowning, and the drowner pulls the good swimmer under. It's nothing like that. Or will you claim that if two people go to dinner and one orders clams and the other gets a ham sandwich that if the guy who ordered the clams gets sick the guy will the ham sandwich will also have to go to the doctor??? That's why >Diamler dumped Chrysler on the market for comparatively pennies. Diamler >quality suffered during the partnership. > Chrysler was abused by MB. If problems developed they were due solely to MB own actions.
From: larry moe 'n curly on 24 Feb 2010 03:56 Mike Hunter wrote: > > Do you believe those 34 intended to kill themselves? If it wasn't > unintended acceleration, then it must have been intended acceleration ;) Do you believe those 34 were killed because of faults with their vehicles, as opposed to faults with their drivers? If not, how do you explain all the Ford Explorers crashing when their tires failed? Yuo know about the reports of unintended acceleration with the Audio 5000, which have never been explained, except for the accelerator pedal being located farther to the left than common among American cars. I find it hard to believe that any computer-controlled car, whether its throttle is operated directly by the pedal or through the computer, wouldn't have a mechanism to constantly check for abnormalities and take emergency action as needed.
From: Clive on 24 Feb 2010 09:40
In message <bJ6dnSSWK-GtDRnWnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, charlesgrozny <n5hsr(a)sprynet.com> writes >Isn't that why the English have warm beer? Lucas also makes refrigerators. Beer or more properly Ale, isn't supposed to be very cold, you're thinking of Lager, essentially German in origin but now worldwide. You call Miller and Bud. beer, but it's really lager, unless the brewing process is different. -- Clive |