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From: Mike Hunter on 14 Feb 2010 13:30 Why did you sign your post, idiot bullshitter? I do not think you are an idiot or a bullshitter, you are simply ignorant of the subject of which you have chosen to comment or at best uniformed. ;) "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:qKWdnTDoTqU-pOXWnZ2dnUVZ_i1i4p2d(a)speakeasy.net... > On 02/14/2010 09:44 AM, Mike Hunter wrote: >> Do you own homework. Search the US Department of Commerce site to >> discover where Toyota get its steel and all of its other materials, WBMA. >> >> You could subscribe to any number of the industry monthly magazines as do >> I, >> if you want to stay abreast of what goes on in the steel, plastics, glass >> and auto and fleet industries > > sure, you subscribe to magazine that tell you steel is an "amalgam". as > you would say, "lol"!!! > > idiot bullshitter. > > >> >> >> >> "dr_jeff"<utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >> news:ermdnXrMkNF5veXWnZ2dnUVZ_uxi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>> Get real! Nippon makes the steel Dana is required to use by Toyota and >>>> Lexus models that are being recalled are made in Japan >>> >>> Evidence please that Nippon makes the steel and that Dana is required to >>> use it by Toyota. >>> >>> Otherwise, you're making a unproven conjecture. >>> >>> Jeff >> >> > > > -- > nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim on 14 Feb 2010 14:00 jim beam wrote: > > On 02/14/2010 09:02 AM, jim wrote: > > > > > > jim beam wrote: > > > >> "said to be"??? in other words, you don't actually know but you're > >> prepared to guess, despite the fact that you're clueless about the > >> process or the component or the material. > > > > The actual report submitted to the NHTSA has not been released because > > that agency was shut down due to the snow storm. So we don't yet know > > exactly what Dana said. The only news reports are based on the > > notification Toyota sent to the toyota dealers. > > > > According to those reports originating from Toyota the defective part > > is said to be "joint" in the drive shaft. And the failure due to > > "improper manufacturing process control". > > so are we talking about some rusty frame part, or are we talking > driveshaft??? Can't speak for "we". I only know what i was talking about. Did you know what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a usa casting." ? >the materials use in manufacture are not the same in both. > > -- > nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Mike Hunter on 14 Feb 2010 14:19 I know it must getting to be a problem for you guys with so many different Toyota recalls. I can see why you get so confused. The two truck recalls are entirely different problems. The Nippon Steel material used, from which the rusting frames are stamped, is ROLLED sheet steel, not cast steel. The Nippon Steel material used that is cracking, from which that shaft piece is machined, would be a "dropped forged" steel, not cast steel. Cast steel is a whole different type of steel. No wonder you guys are all over the place trying to defend Toyota over all of its different recalls. "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote in message news:yNCdnUtB_pb-1eXWnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d(a)bright.net... > > > jim beam wrote: >> >> On 02/14/2010 09:02 AM, jim wrote: >> > >> > >> > jim beam wrote: >> > >> >> "said to be"??? in other words, you don't actually know but you're >> >> prepared to guess, despite the fact that you're clueless about the >> >> process or the component or the material. >> > >> > The actual report submitted to the NHTSA has not been released because >> > that agency was shut down due to the snow storm. So we don't yet know >> > exactly what Dana said. The only news reports are based on the >> > notification Toyota sent to the toyota dealers. >> > >> > According to those reports originating from Toyota the defective >> > part >> > is said to be "joint" in the drive shaft. And the failure due to >> > "improper manufacturing process control". >> >> so are we talking about some rusty frame part, or are we talking >> driveshaft??? > > Can't speak for "we". I only know what i was talking about. Did you know > what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about > ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a > usa casting." ? > > > >>the materials use in manufacture are not the same in both. >> >> -- >> nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim beam on 14 Feb 2010 19:58 On 02/14/2010 11:00 AM, jim wrote: > > > jim beam wrote: >> >> On 02/14/2010 09:02 AM, jim wrote: >>> >>> >>> jim beam wrote: >>> >>>> "said to be"??? in other words, you don't actually know but you're >>>> prepared to guess, despite the fact that you're clueless about the >>>> process or the component or the material. >>> >>> The actual report submitted to the NHTSA has not been released because >>> that agency was shut down due to the snow storm. So we don't yet know >>> exactly what Dana said. The only news reports are based on the >>> notification Toyota sent to the toyota dealers. >>> >>> According to those reports originating from Toyota the defective part >>> is said to be "joint" in the drive shaft. And the failure due to >>> "improper manufacturing process control". >> >> so are we talking about some rusty frame part, or are we talking >> driveshaft??? > > Can't speak for "we". I only know what i was talking about. but you're confusing frames with driveshafts. different materials. > Did you know > what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about > ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a > usa casting." ? actually, i know quite a bit about steel production and processing. someone would need a real special reason to import ingot from japan. commodity "ductile iron" ain't it. > > > >> the materials use in manufacture are not the same in both. >> >> -- >> nomina rutrum rutrum -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim beam on 14 Feb 2010 20:02
On 02/14/2010 11:19 AM, Mike Hunter wrote: > > "jim"<"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote in message > news:yNCdnUtB_pb-1eXWnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d(a)bright.net... >> >> >> jim beam wrote: >>> >>> On 02/14/2010 09:02 AM, jim wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> jim beam wrote: >>>> >>>>> "said to be"??? in other words, you don't actually know but you're >>>>> prepared to guess, despite the fact that you're clueless about the >>>>> process or the component or the material. >>>> >>>> The actual report submitted to the NHTSA has not been released because >>>> that agency was shut down due to the snow storm. So we don't yet know >>>> exactly what Dana said. The only news reports are based on the >>>> notification Toyota sent to the toyota dealers. >>>> >>>> According to those reports originating from Toyota the defective >>>> part >>>> is said to be "joint" in the drive shaft. And the failure due to >>>> "improper manufacturing process control". >>> >>> so are we talking about some rusty frame part, or are we talking >>> driveshaft??? >> >> Can't speak for "we". I only know what i was talking about. Did you know >> what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about >> ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a >> usa casting." ? >> >> >> >>> the materials use in manufacture are not the same in both. >>> >>> -- >>> nomina rutrum rutrum > > top posting fixed. > I know it must getting to be a problem for you guys with so many different > Toyota recalls. I can see why you get so confused. The two truck recalls > are entirely different problems. > > The Nippon Steel material used, from which the rusting frames are stamped, > is ROLLED sheet steel, not cast steel. so which is it mike? earlier, you referred to "ductile iron". that is a cast product, not rolled. > > The Nippon Steel material used that is cracking, from which that shaft piece > is machined, would be a "dropped forged" steel, not cast steel. Cast steel > is a whole different type of steel. you mean "iron". and what "shaft piece" are you referring to? there's more than one, and none of them have to be "drop forged". > > No wonder you guys are all over the place trying to defend Toyota over all > of its different recalls. oh, you're not all over the place at all!!! -- nomina rutrum rutrum |