From: Mike Hunter on
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But, but, but if they do how can the claim the parts on the NA Parts label?
Better yet allow Dana to use American steel from Mittal like they do in all
the trouble free frames they make of domestic manufactures, instead of
forcing them to us Nippon Steel.


"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>
>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>
>> Oh, boy...
>
>
> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>
> By now, we've lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
> (it's somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
> the front propeller shaft.
>
> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>
> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
> process of the front prop shaft.
>
> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December 2009
> to early Feb. 2010.
>
>
> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>
> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
> preferred suppliers.
>
>


From: Mike Hunter on
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Dana must use Japanese steel, that is the problem


"jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On 02/12/2010 08:32 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>
>>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>>
>>> Oh, boy...
>>
>>
>> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>>
>> By now, we've lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
>> (it's somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
>> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
>> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
>> the front propeller shaft.
>>
>> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
>> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>>
>> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
>> process of the front prop shaft.
>>
>> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December
>> 2009
>> to early Feb. 2010.
>>
>>
>> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>>
>> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
>> preferred suppliers.
>>
>>
>
> hopefully toyota will have learned their lesson - don't trust domestic
> suppliers.
>
> actually, two lessons: make sure your competition doesn't spend more on
> political donations than you do!
>
> --
> nomina rutrum rutrum


From: Mike Hunter on
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Why would Dana be sweating? The problem is in the steel that is made by
Nippon LOL


"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:42:39 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>
>> On 02/12/2010 08:32 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>>>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>>>
>>>> Oh, boy...
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>>>
>>> By now, we've lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
>>> (it's somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
>>> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
>>> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
>>> the front propeller shaft.
>>>
>>> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
>>> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>>>
>>> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
>>> process of the front prop shaft.
>>>
>>> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December
>>> 2009 to early Feb. 2010.
>>>
>>>
>>> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>>>
>>> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
>>> preferred suppliers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> hopefully toyota will have learned their lesson - don't trust domestic
>> suppliers.
>
> I thought CTS was going to be under close scrutiny, but I think Dana is
> toast! This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was
> 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back
> for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new
> Tacoma...
>
> Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could
> rot prematurely!
>
> This recall 'only' affects 8,000 vehicles, but I bet the guys at Dana are
> sweating bullets...
>
>>
>> actually, two lessons: make sure your competition doesn't spend more on
>> political donations than you do!
>
>
> Yeah, that too. I particularly liked the ads Chevrolet dealers were
> running that said, We'll give you $1,000 more than book value!
>
> Sure! Why the hell not? It's *OUR* money!!!
>
>


From: Mike Hunter on
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Toyota will be lucky if it only costs them ten billions. The shark lawyers
already have started class action suits in numerous stares and are asking
the federal courts for a nation wide class action.


"ransley" <Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 12, 10:32 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> > I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>> > propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>
>> > Oh, boy...
>>
>> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>>
>> By now, we’ve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
>> (it’s somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
>> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
>> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
>> the front propeller shaft.
>>
>> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
>> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>>
>> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
>> process of the front prop shaft.
>>
>> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December
>> 2009
>> to early Feb. 2010.
>>
>> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>>
>> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
>> preferred suppliers.
>
> Toyota , on its way to 10,000,000 recalls, Toyota hires retired-former
> NHTSA employees, they help squash many investigations that would have
> led to RECALLS. Toyota knew about accererator issues in 2003, just
> wait this might top 20,000,000 , Twenty Million, is its over?. And you
> lamely blame Dana on a few, now thats Lame. Toyotas whole modus has
> been "dont tell" anybody. They should hit toy with a Ten Billion
> dollar fine.


From: Clive on
In message <4b76ddc9$0$10191$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, Mike Hunter
<Mikehunt2(a)lycos.?.invalid> writes
>Better catch up, it that is what you want to believe. Most of the safety
>recalls, all around the world, have been order by the various governments.
>There have been at least 19 deaths, including four in California, thus far
>and an undetermined number of injuries, according to published reports.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Although there are
500million people in the EU compared to just 300million in the US, there
has only been 4 accidents attributed to accelerator problems on this
side of the pond and no fatalities. Though in America everyone wants
to blame someone else, I'm sure the truth will come out within a year or
two. Google is you friend, look up "Driving in Japan" and you'll see why
the sales of American cars there is so small (no parking place
ownership, no car etc.). I own two 2.2litre cars a 2002 Nissan Almera
and 2009 Toyota Auris SR180, it's power to weight ratio is 120.27bhp per
ton. My daughter owns two cars, a Vauxhall Corsa diesel and a Proton
Gen2 1.6 litre petrol, my son owns a Toyota Yaris 1.3 petrol. After
driving a few of the cars you have in America, The latest being a Dodge
Avenger 2.4 petrol, I am convinced that few if any of you domestic cars
could even go as fast as my sons Yaris, and I don't think even your
muscle cars can hold a candle to my SR180.
--
Clive