From: Mike Hunter on
Do you own homework. Search the US Department of Commerce site to
discover where Toyota get its steel and all of its other materials, WBMA.

You could subscribe to any number of the industry monthly magazines as do I,
if you want to stay abreast of what goes on in the steel, plastics, glass
and auto and fleet industries



"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
news:ermdnXrMkNF5veXWnZ2dnUVZ_uxi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> Get real! Nippon makes the steel Dana is required to use by Toyota and
>> Lexus models that are being recalled are made in Japan
>
> Evidence please that Nippon makes the steel and that Dana is required to
> use it by Toyota.
>
> Otherwise, you're making a unproven conjecture.
>
> Jeff


From: jim beam on
On 02/14/2010 09:02 AM, jim wrote:
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> "said to be"??? in other words, you don't actually know but you're
>> prepared to guess, despite the fact that you're clueless about the
>> process or the component or the material.
>
> The actual report submitted to the NHTSA has not been released because
> that agency was shut down due to the snow storm. So we don't yet know
> exactly what Dana said. The only news reports are based on the
> notification Toyota sent to the toyota dealers.
>
> According to those reports originating from Toyota the defective part
> is said to be "joint" in the drive shaft. And the failure due to
> "improper manufacturing process control".

so are we talking about some rusty frame part, or are we talking
driveshaft??? the materials use in manufacture are not the same in both.

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From: jim beam on
On 02/14/2010 09:44 AM, Mike Hunter wrote:
> Do you own homework. Search the US Department of Commerce site to
> discover where Toyota get its steel and all of its other materials, WBMA.
>
> You could subscribe to any number of the industry monthly magazines as do I,
> if you want to stay abreast of what goes on in the steel, plastics, glass
> and auto and fleet industries

sure, you subscribe to magazine that tell you steel is an "amalgam". as
you would say, "lol"!!!

idiot bullshitter.


>
>
>
> "dr_jeff"<utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
> news:ermdnXrMkNF5veXWnZ2dnUVZ_uxi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>> Get real! Nippon makes the steel Dana is required to use by Toyota and
>>> Lexus models that are being recalled are made in Japan
>>
>> Evidence please that Nippon makes the steel and that Dana is required to
>> use it by Toyota.
>>
>> Otherwise, you're making a unproven conjecture.
>>
>> Jeff
>
>


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From: Mike Hunter on
Do your own home work, sonny


"Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2010.02.14.22.25.08.797000(a)e86.GTS...
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:03:50 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:
>
>> Get real! That may be your opinion but when a supplier builds to a
>> manufactures specs how can you blame the supplier, particularly when the
>> supplier must use material REQUIRED by that manufacturer?
>>
>> If a part fails it is ether a design deficiency or a failure of the
>> materials specified. The steel Dana uses for Toyota is from Nippon of
>> Japan
>
>
> How about some proof of that?
>


From: jim beam on
On 02/14/2010 10:03 AM, Mike Hunter wrote:
> Do your own home work, sonny
>
>
> "Hachiroku"<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2010.02.14.22.25.08.797000(a)e86.GTS...
>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:03:50 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> Get real! That may be your opinion but when a supplier builds to a
>>> manufactures specs how can you blame the supplier, particularly when the
>>> supplier must use material REQUIRED by that manufacturer?
>>>
>>> If a part fails it is ether a design deficiency or a failure of the
>>> materials specified. The steel Dana uses for Toyota is from Nippon of
>>> Japan
>>
>>
>> How about some proof of that?
>>
>
>

no, idiot, the burden of proof is on you. especially since you
evidently don't know the difference between iron, steel and amalgam.

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