From: jim beam on
On 02/15/2010 05:51 AM, C. E. White wrote:
> "Hachiroku"<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2010.02.14.01.38.10.609000(a)e86.GTS...
>
>> So that makes TWICE Dana has screwed Toyota, first on the frames and
>> now
>> on driveshafts.
>
> Interesting how you are willing to blame Dana for screwing Toyota but
> not balme Toyota for screwing their Customers...
>
> Ed
>
>

delusional logical disconnect? or deliberate attempt at deceit?
[rhetorical]

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From: jim on


jim beam wrote:
>
> On 02/15/2010 06:40 AM, jim wrote:
> >
> >
> > jim beam wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> but you're confusing frames with driveshafts. different materials.
> >
> > In the newsgroup I am posting to nobody has until now has mentioned
> > anything about steel frames.
>
> then you're not reading the thread!

Or maybe you are hallucinating.

>
> >
> > The first post in the thread that i see said:
> >
> > "I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks
> > because the front propellor shaft can separate
> > (probably at the U-joint...)"
>
> see above.

see above

>
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> Did you know
> >>> what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about
> >>> ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a
> >>> usa casting." ?
> >>
> >> actually, i know quite a bit about steel production and processing.
> >> someone would need a real special reason to import ingot from japan.
> >> commodity "ductile iron" ain't it.
> >
> > It doesn't sound like you know much about steel. You definitely don't
> > know much about cast irons either. Ductile iron is not a commodity it
> > is material that is produced as a result of the casting process.
>
> whoa. wow. evidently you simply don't know what you don't know. but
> we already know you've not read this thread or you'd have bothered with
> the cites i gave earlier.

How does that make the foolish statement I was responding to any less
foolish?
From: jim beam on
On 02/15/2010 09:00 AM, jim wrote:
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>>
>> On 02/15/2010 06:40 AM, jim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> but you're confusing frames with driveshafts. different materials.
>>>
>>> In the newsgroup I am posting to nobody has until now has mentioned
>>> anything about steel frames.
>>
>> then you're not reading the thread!
>
> Or maybe you are hallucinating.
>
>>
>>>
>>> The first post in the thread that i see said:
>>>
>>> "I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks
>>> because the front propellor shaft can separate
>>> (probably at the U-joint...)"
>>
>> see above.
>
> see above
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Did you know
>>>>> what you were talking about when you said "there's nothing special about
>>>>> ductile iron that would necessitate a proprietary japanese pour for a
>>>>> usa casting." ?
>>>>
>>>> actually, i know quite a bit about steel production and processing.
>>>> someone would need a real special reason to import ingot from japan.
>>>> commodity "ductile iron" ain't it.
>>>
>>> It doesn't sound like you know much about steel. You definitely don't
>>> know much about cast irons either. Ductile iron is not a commodity it
>>> is material that is produced as a result of the casting process.
>>
>> whoa. wow. evidently you simply don't know what you don't know. but
>> we already know you've not read this thread or you'd have bothered with
>> the cites i gave earlier.
>
> How does that make the foolish statement I was responding to any less
> foolish?

it doesn't make your statement less foolish dude. "ductile iron" is
very much a commodity. you'd know that if you knew about iron/steel.


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From: Steve on
jim beam wrote:
> On 02/13/2010 04:19 PM, C. E. White wrote:
>>
>> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:hl5f5n$l03$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> ....This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was
>>> 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back
>>> for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new
>>> Tacoma...
>>>
>>> Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could
>>> rot prematurely!
>>
>> Dana makes frames for lots of companies. Why does it seem only the
>> Toyota frames are so bad there are recalls for them?
>>


Because only the Toyota frames were built to Toyota's specifications.
Which were obviously inadequate.

The Tundra is deader than 1980's thanksgiving turkey. Stick a fork in it.


From: jim on


jim beam wrote:


> >>> It doesn't sound like you know much about steel. You definitely don't
> >>> know much about cast irons either. Ductile iron is not a commodity it
> >>> is material that is produced as a result of the casting process.
> >>
> >> whoa. wow. evidently you simply don't know what you don't know. but
> >> we already know you've not read this thread or you'd have bothered with
> >> the cites i gave earlier.
> >
> > How does that make the foolish statement I was responding to any less
> > foolish?
>
> it doesn't make your statement less foolish dude. "ductile iron" is
> very much a commodity. you'd know that if you knew about iron/steel.

In your fantasy world that may be, but not in the real world.