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From: Obveeus on 1 Apr 2010 09:58 "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:XdqdnQxTWIE5PCnWnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > On 04/01/2010 04:38 AM, Observer wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:41:36 -0700, jim beam<me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>> http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/TechnologyDevelopment/OPPTD_FLY_High-Efficiency-Oil-Filters.cfm >>> >>> shock, horror, they used oil analysis to arrive at these >>> recommendations! >> >> >> I'm one of those guys who believes in 3000 mile intervals because it >> has always worked for me. > > i keep garlic in my refrigerator because it stops elephants from standing > in the butter. because it has always worked for me. FACT: De-ionized salt works just as well. >> Do I care if no one agrees with me, NO. Do >> I care if I can extend it to 5000 or more miles, NO. Do I claim my >> way is the only correct way, NO. In other words, you do what works >> for you and I'll do the same. > > superstitious nonsense - you have absolutely zero basis in fact. He didn't claim any basis in fact.
From: jim on 1 Apr 2010 10:00 Dave Kelsen wrote: > never been one of the most helpful people here. Nor did I claim to be > one of those folks. But I have been here for years. Your reading > comprehension seems to be on a level with your reasoning abilities. Shame. He made several casual observations. I wonder which one of those statements rang true and got you so bent out of shape. I'm guessing this one: "Some people want to feel superior, or it could be they want reinforcement of their own beliefs, because they are not sure of those beliefs."
From: dr_jeff on 1 Apr 2010 10:11 Obveeus wrote: > "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:XdqdnQ1TWIHHPCnWnZ2dnUVZ_j4AAAAA(a)speakeasy.net... >> On 03/31/2010 12:40 PM, Obveeus wrote: >>> "Elle"<honda.lioness(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:beb4763f-74c7-4bf7-801c-7c0f79b766bd(a)e6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>> On Mar 30, 5:55 pm, "Bob Jones"<em...(a)me.not> wrote: >>>>> Most people drive in severe conditions. >>>> -- For my 2003 Civic in severe conditions, the interval then becomes >>>> 5k miles or six months. >>>> >>>> -- I would have to see a citation to believe that most people drive in >>>> severe conditions. I think Jim B is right that "normal" is a word that >>>> Honda chose for its manuals with careful consideration. >>> I have seen 'severe conditions' described as 'lots of stop and go >>> traffic'. >> yeah, on iffy-lube websites trying to get you to go into their shop and >> out of your wallet every 3000 miles. >> >> >>> If that is the definition, then yes, most people drive under severe >>> conditions. >> nonsense. > > It is an 'if, then' statement and as such, you must understand that it is > not 'nonsense'. The 'if' part may be false, though, rendering the > conclusion useless. I think we agree that, the claim that people need to > change their oil every 3,000 miles or on some time interval is nonsense > promoted by auto repair people. I disagree that it is nonsense. In my 1984 AMC Eagle, those frequent oil changes were needed. In my 2008 Ford Focus, a longer interval is needed. The 3000 mi interval was based on good info. However, now it is based on greed. Jeff
From: Obveeus on 1 Apr 2010 10:23 "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote: > I disagree that it is nonsense. In my 1984 AMC Eagle, those frequent oil > changes were needed. In my 2008 Ford Focus, a longer interval is needed. > > The 3000 mi interval was based on good info. Good info based upon old technology (oil from 25 years ago and car manufacturing from 25 years ago). Even without the 'greed' factor, the technology has changed enough that the old rules simply should not apply. ....and for the people driving the 25+ year old cars, the 'topping off what leaks out method' probably is as good as doing oil changes (though the filter probably still needs to get changed).
From: Iowna Uass on 1 Apr 2010 10:27
"jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:3t-dnTTc0qxd1SzWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/TechnologyDevelopment/OPPTD_FLY_High-Efficiency-Oil-Filters.cfm > > shock, horror, they used oil analysis to arrive at these recommendations! > > -- > nomina rutrum rutrum Good post man... Gotta love the way a little article would generate so much banter. As for the high efficiency oil filters, what would be a good brand to go with? Is the stock honda filter a good choice to stick with? |