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From: jim beam on 31 Mar 2010 00:56 On 03/30/2010 06:05 PM, ACAR wrote: > On Mar 30, 10:17�am, jim beam<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > snip >> >> when i posted this - i was thinking of the people that do what their >> granddaddy did, > > well, he "changed" oil by adding when it was a quart or two low. > >> even though combustion technology, fuels, �oils and >> engine metallurgy are dramatically different these days. �i was hoping >> to enlighten, but i guess i'd forgotten just how rigidly proud some >> people are of their ignorance and ability to keep their head stuck >> firmly in that sand. > > enlighten? > Jim, you never enlighten, you issue directives. > >> >> next time you get sick, doubtless you're going to resort to burning >> camphor and bread poultices. �those "doctor" people and their >> new-fangled "technology" and "drugs" clearly don't know what they're doing. >> > > generally, drug researchers don't make unqualified long term claims > based on short term tests. > > let me put it another way; you'd have to be an idiot to believe you > can project the results from a year test on fleet vehicles to 10 years > or more of normal passenger car use. not to mention folks in cold > country are rightfully skeptical of tests conducted in CA. superstition beats science every time - there's /always/ some superstitious excuse. > > are you familiar with engineering personality disorder? > > just kidding.... -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim beam on 31 Mar 2010 00:56 On 03/30/2010 04:55 PM, Bob Jones wrote: > "Elle"<honda.lioness(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:3ebb0d52-9d5c-4fda-9d4c-e7d329ca1792(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 29, 6:41 pm, jim beam<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/TechnologyDevelopment/OPPTD_FLY_High-Efficienc... > >> The article linked above is a good read and helps reinforce my belief >> about going with the manufacturer's recommendations on oil change >> intervals, or even longer. > >> The owner's manual for my 2003 Civic says to change the oil every 10k >> miles or every year, whichever comes first, using 5W20 non-synthetic, >> and assuming no extreme conditions, per what is explained to be >> "extreme" in the owner's manual. > >> The wikipedia entry for "motor oil" talks about how oil standards have >> changed, driving the increasing interval over the decades. > > That may be the case for normal driving condition. Most people drive in > severe conditions. nonsense - by definition, "normal" is what most people drive in. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Mark on 31 Mar 2010 08:29 That's why you leave the hood up... On Mar 30, 3:48 pm, "M.M." <nob...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > Then there's the risk that your wife will drive it to work in the > morning, not knowing there's no oil in the engine...
From: Mark on 31 Mar 2010 08:31 When you get an extra 1/4 to 1/2 a quart out, I have to think so. On Mar 30, 10:40 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote: > > Does that really matter? >
From: Mark on 31 Mar 2010 08:33
If there are other pools of oil in the engine, why doesn't the oil turn dark right away? What is the percentage difference between 5% old oil left and 1%? Think it's 4%? On Mar 30, 11:15 am, jim beam <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > Does that really matter? > > of course not. the percentage difference it makes is vanishingly small.. > and that's not including the fact that some engines have oil > deliberately pooled in locations that don't drain - to protect cam > shafts for instance. new oil simply dilutes - unless the engine is > completely stripped and cleaned, it's never a complete "change". |